: How to properly align your satellite dish - Discussion and Tips
2007-11-21, 08:58 PM
Nimiq 1.....I cannot get a "locked signal" whenever I hook up SW21,whether it's the 301 or the 6000 IRD.....I do get locked signal when I hook up one signal at a time whether it be the 82 or 91...mind u,I have modded this IRD...it initially had D***N** firmware on it and I re-wrote tsops and eeprom....but no problem getting into IRD info...maybe trying a brand new SW21 might do it..thanx,IB:confused:
2007-12-12, 11:25 PM
Which transponders on 82 are the best to maximize signal on?
Due to bylaw restrictions, my dish is at the back of my property in a slightly less than ideal location. I have replaced the standard 20" dish with a 33". Now, I get 80-100% on all 91 transponders even in heavy snow but getting 82 is a PITA. I'm using the digiwave "magic" triple LNB holder. I've some about 6-8 transponders at 80-100% but every time I maximize a couple of transponders, a few others disappear and drop off to 0.
I'm trying to maximize my HD channels and Discovery HD. That's about all that I need from the 82 sat. Transponder 28 seems to be at very low signal strength.
2008-01-23, 04:37 PM
mods, I suggest this thread be stickied in the new Expressvu/DN installation subforum
2008-01-23, 07:46 PM
FWIW, page I-25 of the 6100 manual clearly says to connect the 82 LNB to port 1 of the switch, and 91 to port 2. We had problems when this was reversed, and when we corrected it and ran the sw test I had both birds working.
2008-01-24, 08:41 AM
I apreciate the comment but trust me it really does not matter which way round they go, my guess and that is all it is, would be that removing the cables and refitting them in the opposite locations allowed them to make a better electrical connection, therefore it worked.
I think it was a coincidence but either way it worked which was at the end of the day the goal......
2008-02-01, 09:43 AM
I spent 2 hours on a frozen roof yesterday trying to find the #@!$ sat signal... I keep catching the 119 and 110 from Echostar but no 91 Nimiq. Im in Montreal, can anyone give me their azimuth, angle and skew settings so i can verify mines ? Anyone know anyone that does installation in the Montreal area ( other than BEV of course )
PS Is the 82 sat going to come in automaticly when i get the 91 in ?
2008-02-01, 10:41 AM
From behind the Dish you need to turn more to the Left and UP.
Providing you are hooking up 91 directly to the receiver, not through a switch etc, once you get 91 peaked, 82 should be there if the Skew is set correctly.
2008-02-03, 11:01 AM
Hello, I spent the better part of yesterday changing just about everything on the roof and still can't get the elusive 82!!.
PROBLEM: Receiving 91 twice (on system info - green boxes), Bell 82 shows "wrong sat-Bev 91" red bar with 90% signal strength.
Did a check switch numerous times, tried disconnecting cable from receiver to reset switch but it will not perform a check switch with the cable unplugged. Tested 91 direct, got peak signal, added sw21 (shows as sw42 on check switch).
Equipment: 6100hd receiver, Bell dish, sw21 switch, 2 dual LNB's(not from bell), Y adapter. T.O area (Ajax)
Receiving 91 clear, but desperately trying to get 82 for SUPERBOWL in HD!!
Should I be adjusting the dish left-wards towards 82 and away from 91. According to the manual, it supposed to be automatic with a Y adapter, once 91 is located!!
Any suggestions?? THX.
2008-02-03, 11:45 AM
According to the manual, it supposed to be automatic with a Y adapter, once 91 is located!!
Let's see if we can get you up and running for the Superbowl.
First, make sure that you do the following:
1) Connect ONE lnb only and ensure that it is in the 91 degree side of the y adapter (when looking from behind the dish, it should be on the left hand side ... check the y adapter, it has 91 and 82 written on it). I would also suggest not using the switch at all until later).
2) Set the skew angle on the dish (find the skew information in the manual for your location).
3) Find the 91 bird and maximize your signal.
4) Connect the second lnb (for 82 degrees) and connect it directly to your receiver. You should have the 82 bird automatically if you have the skew angle set correctly.
5) If all is well, connect your switch, connect both lnb's and run a check switch. You should be in business.
2008-02-03, 12:00 PM
OK, I did the direct connection for 91, but did not try the direct for 82.
I will do that in the next 20min and report back. Also, I have already tried the disconnect receiver, re-insert smart card, routine. It is encouraging that it at least recognizes two satellites, unfortunately both are 91 degerees. Back soon.
2008-02-03, 12:46 PM
Re-connected 91 direct, received a 90% signal, then connected the LNB for 82 direct and did not get anything, no signal or sat recognized. Performed a switch test on the direct connection to 82 lnb, but no change.
2008-02-03, 01:24 PM
FINALLY!!, SOME SUCCESS!!!. Loose cable was the problem. It came out of the fitting when I tugged at it. Still missing some channels but SUPERBOWL channel is up. GREAT!! I will now connect S21 and see what happens. Thank you.
2008-02-03, 01:31 PM
Couple of more things to check:
1) I believe that you said you live in the Toronto area ... do you have the skew angle set to 96.4 degrees (you have to turn the dish like a steering wheel to 96.4 degrees)? If not, turn the dish are re-start the procedure I outlined.
2) You may have a faulty LNB ... try switching LNB's as see if the problem follows the LNB.
3) You may have a faulty cable ... try using the same cable, but connect to the different LNB's. All it takes is one strand of the ground in the cable to be touching the copper conductor and it will ground out the LNB. If you find it is the cable, try putting new connectors on the cable.
4) You may have a line of sight problem. Although you may be able to get 91, there may be something obstructing 82.
2008-02-04, 10:26 AM
Got it saturday morning. I had the elevation angle wrong, did not adjust it according to the 22.5 angle, stupid me. Once i corrected it, everything came in strong and clear.
Thank you for the help :)
2008-02-04, 02:12 PM
Good Man, thanks for keeping us informed.....
2008-03-25, 11:03 PM
Sorry to revive an old thread, but I had successfully installed my 9200 in Toronto a few years ago. I had 2 9200's (and hence 2 complete systems), and decided to install the second dish at the winter home in Port St. Lucie, Florida, and move the receiver to wherever I am located.
From the online calculators, I have the following:
The receiver was working properly when I brought it from my Toronto home.
I ran the check switch to clear everything and I am connecting the LNB's directly to the receiver first (without the SW44 switch).
I am able to hit the 91, but I cannot seem to hit the 82. I have tried maximizing the 91 strength (to about 93%) and switching to the 82, but I cannot seem to hit it no matter how much I try. I've switched LNB's, I've swapped cables to no avail. I've pretty much gone through the entire skew angle.
Any other tips I can try?
2008-03-25, 11:43 PM
I think if you read through some of the USA satellite forums they say that the Nimiq2 footprint is really poor in the SE part of USA.
2008-03-27, 08:02 AM
Alright, I got the dish aimed yesterday getting 90% 91 and 73% 82 directly hooking up the LNB's to the receiver.
When I hook everything up to the SW44 switch, and run the check switch I get the following
82 91 82 91
X Ok X Ok
Reception Error Reception Error
When I go to details, I get this error on both lines:
Missing Port 1A Sat 82 Odd.
Any ideas on what to try to remedy this?
2008-03-27, 09:28 AM
Double check everything. Try different cables, connectors, etc.
When running straight to the dish (no switch) check odd AND even transponder strength.
I don't use a sw44 switch anymore but isn't it supposed to have both 91's and 82's together?
Try putting both 91 cables on input 1 and both 82 on input B. I believe you have them mixed up.