so peano, just to be clear.... you are saying I need two sw21s so I can feed one cable into each input on the receiver? if so wouldn't a dp plus seperator work? there was one separator that came with the receiver which is why I ask.

ok: just saw the part about the dp plus separator with the legacy lnbs.

Alright, after peano mentioned that the dp plus wouldn't work with legacy lnbs, I thought that that I would try my dual lnb with the built in sw21s switches again but this time go directly to each input on the receiver directly. Thus bypassing the dp plus.

Guess what? It worked... I now have the HD channels. So I guess that the LNBs that I bought with the new dish aren't compatible with the dp plus. That was my problem the whole time.

Newbie mistake I guess...

Thanks for all the help. It's much appreciated.

Peano said the DPP Separator would not work with Legacy LNBF's. A DPP Twin is an LNBF that fits into BOTH sides of the "Y" yolk.

Now, if you wanted to, you could remove one of the Inputs on the receiver and fit the DPP Separator to it, then 2 short jumpers into the Inputs, that is how it works. That would leave a line for another Receiver in the future.

Hi everyone, loving all the readily available information in this site!

I just recently installed an Expressvu dish with a 9242.
I've got the DPP Plus installation with the DPP Splitter.
I've got the twin LNB for 82 and 91.

I'm able to lock in on 82 (HD Channels) but I can't seem to find 91 at all.
I'm in Winnipeg and my mast is plumb.

I actually had to raise my elevation from the suggested manual elevation to get 82.

Any ideas on how I go about getting 91?

Thanks!

I had the same problem, see post 517. Pinza was a big help, he knows this satellite stuff pretty well.

"A quick update, put a new arm on and a new LNBF, again I found 82 right way so I gave it another 2 degrees up and turned it a little to the right and I managed to get 80% on 91. Hooked up the switch and all was well.
Thanks for your help Pinza, hopefully I'll be able to find 91 up at the lake too! "


What I was told was to bypass the switch, hook up to 91 only, find it and if your skew is right 82 should be there too when you hook the switch up again.
I'm getting good at it on our camping trips, as long as there's no mountains in the way.

I can't really hook up just 91 as I have the twin LNB with only 1 output and the DPP separator. Or do I only hook up one of the DPP separator cables (Satellite 2)? And try to point it?

On the satellite pointing screen, I set it to transponder 11 and Satellite 91.
When it finds 82, it switches to 82 gives me a clear signal of 82.
When I switch it back to 91, it says "Wrong Sat - Nimiq 82".

Cover the 82 side of the LNBF then aim it at 91.

If I'm only using 1 cable running out of the DPP Twin LNB, then using the DPP Seperator can I still tune in just 91? Or is that maybe part of the problem?

I don't see why not but why not try it without and run a direct line from the DPP Twin to the Input you are using for aiming.

This is our first winter in Tucson, Arizona. I am looking for the Azimuth elevation and skew. Thanks

Hi Hoping someone can suggest something or help me with this

I've been trying to set up a bell satellite at my new home near kamloops BC I've set up quite a few dishes (at least 30) in the past and I've never had this much of a problem finding a signal. I've tried 3 separate dishes and 4 lnbs,(one known for sure as good and working) 4 or 5 cables and 2 receivers and I haven't even been able to get a 1% signal on any combination of these.
I've also pretty much scanned the complete southern sky (from the roof and the ground) with these obviously starting with the angles and azimuth and all that in the bell book and online (which are different by more than 5 degrees) and still nothing I've tried resetting, someone suggested unplug everything and run a check switch, no change my receiver is a 3100 and the other one I'm borrowing to test is a 2700 all of the dishes are the older type with no skew settings and using no switches
thanks

Have you tried Dishpointer dot com to verify that south is really where you think it is.?

With all the receivers and cables/LNBF's you have tried, it can only be a pointing issue surely.

At least that site will show you the direction.

yes I've checked those sites and 2 compasses to make sure and when I'm on my roof I can see several other bell dishes and mine appears to be pointing the same as those

Are you hitting ANYTHING.?

Lots more besides 82 & 91. 110 & 119 for example.

Are you running a solid cable from LNBF to Receiver.?
Any chance they are the wrong LNBF's.?

2nd link

https://www.google.ca/search?rlz=1C1GPEA_enCA305&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=bell+satellite+skew#hl=en&rlz=1C1GPEA_enCA305&sclient=psy-ab&q=bell+satellite+skew+us&oq=bell+satellite+skew+us&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_nf=1&gs_l=serp.3...71789.73011.0.73314.3.3.0.0.0.0.367.525.2j3-1.3.0.EYX7EuJAEfY&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=d5de7793dde30a36

This site uses google Earth. Drag & drop on your house......dishpointer.com

I'm not hitting anything at all the signal is consistently 0% haven't even seen a 1% signal,
The cables are solid from receiver to lnbf and brand new
As for the lnbfs I'm not sure on these, they are very old ones.
I bought another dish/lnbf the other day thinking the antique lnbfs could be the reason and this one was also quite old. but was told it works
one is a dish network/expressvu with the single jack, one is directv plus old square-ish one with 2 jacks and the "new" one is dish network with 2 jacks I've tried both jacks on the ones with 2 jacks as well

Which transponders are yo using? Try a different one. Some of them are out of service.

I've mostly been using 13 on 91 but I've tried cycling through the transponders as well

check all external connections first, do you have the coax on the correct location on the receiver? did you ensure your mast was plumb before starting? is there any possible obstructions in the way?
are you sure you don't want to hire a pro and be done with the whole thing in 10 minutes?....lol