Run a Check Switch with NO inputs on the receiver then connect the cable and do it again.

Hello, brand new to the forum...hope this is an appropriate place to post this...I did search for the answer, but no luck (hopefully I didn't miss it)

Ok, so my unorthodox setup is for reasons that I won't bother mentioning. (timing weather equipment etc.)
I have two dishes setup, both pointing to 91. 1 cable coming from each and feeding into my new 9241. (no switch, no 82 feed because no HD interest) My 9241 gets 80% and 82% signal from both lines. I activated my old 3100 the other day, which had great signal a few months ago, and I took one line right off of the 9241 so it could download the info from Bell. I waited and waited and nothing happened as it sat on the "retrieving sattelite signal" screen for about 3.5 hours. (the rep had told me 15min to 2 hours.) Sick of waiting, I hit menu and point dish, well low and behold, 89%, but "wrong sat"......so hooked back up to the 9241 and still strong signals. (on both lines) Have done this three times now, and still same results...in fact, the line with the stronger signal, doesn't even recognize any satellite, and the weaker of the two shows 89% and "wrong sat"....needless to say no lock and no service???
What am I missing? Some sort of setting perhaps, read something about "off air" but they didn't expand on what that was. I thank you for any and all information that you can provide.

In the "point dish" menu (menu-6-1-1) where you can see the signal strength hit the option "ckeck switch" and start the test...results will show you what is going on there and perhaps it would be enough to lock the 91 satellite.

I have seen perfectly good units say, Wrong Satellite, it was because the did not have the Nagra 3 Card. They start with S06xxxxxxxxxx.

Or S0459xxxxx

I stand corrected! Again! Pinza are those separate cards or built ins?
I was going to say that but I thought they were just the built ins of the 9242 and such.

Some are seperate Cards, I know of one Hotel with all 54 Cards in this range.

ok, thanks for your responses. You know, I had expressed my concerns about my old card, knowing about the Nagra swap...the rep had told me "no it will be fine"...my card is S044...so i just called them, the fellow suggested that he just had to reset it, had me pull the card, then replace, then check switch and told me to leave it on for 2 hours...so here I wait...will keep you's posted ............thanks again all!

Just as I expected, no change..waited 3.5hours once again, and nothing....I don't quite understand how these two representatives can feel that I just need to "wait two hours for all the information to update", when I am not even getting a signal??
What do I need to say to make them realize I need a new card? Any suggestions?

I purchased a new 33" dish to replace my current Dish 500 dish in an attempt to receive 82 and HD programming while located in Pennsylvania.

Today I did a test with the new dish and was able to get 60% on 82 compared to 0% on the old dish, not bad!

However I can't get both 82 and 91 at the same time. Followed the standard advice of tuning in 91 and hit 92% however 82 was 0%.

If I bump the Azimuth anti-clockwise http://www.satcalculator.net/pics/azymuth.jpg about 2 degrees I get 82 but lose 91.

Three different websites recommended a skew of 6.9 to 8.7. I'm guessing the elevation is fine and the skew is off. I've tried increasing the skew by 2 degrees at a time and was able to narrow the azimuth (move required to get 82 and 91) from 6 degrees to 2. If I keep increasing the skew eventually I lose 82.

Any suggestions are welcome. Other than using 2 dishes I'm not certain what to try next.

Unless the 33" Dish is designed for 2 LNBF's I would go straight for a 2 Dish solution.

The 33" dish (http://www.onesat.ca/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=33-INCH-ELLIPTICAL-DISH) is designed for use w/3 LNB's. In fact it resembles the old DirecTV triple LNB dish so much that the horn where you mount the LNB's is stamped 101, 110 & 119 :).

The 82 LNB is in the 101 slot, 91 in the middle 110 slot and the 119 slot is empty.

Use dishpointer.com and select multisat in the drop down and then 91/82. Enter your exact address. Use that skew and don't change it.

Then put the 91 LNB in the 119 slot and get max signal. Now add the 82 LNB to the 110 slot and run check switch. Done.

peano, thanks for the reply. I've done as you said (move the LNB & adjust according to dishpointer) but my results are the same. Either 82 or 91 with a slight bump of the dish, but not both. Any other ideas :(

If you got a Y yolk connector for Bell or Dishnet which would optimize the alignment and focus of your dish and LNBs, they are about $12 new.

Otherwise I would suggest using this dish angle calculator for 3 satellites, http://www.satcalculator.net/ and add either 72.5 or 101 depending on which end you have your LNBs on, to complete the calculation. Once you get the proper skew for the dish you will be able to set it up for both Satellites. I believe your problem is you are using a 3 LNB dish and a 2 LNB calculator.

Hi

Having a problem with finding 82

I have a DPP Plus Twin LNB hooked to a what looks to be a 21 inch dish...the dish my buddy bought used...it dose say bell on it, so Iam guessin its an HD dish.

My rg6 comes outa the LNB and runs to a seperator at the back of a 9241. I can get 91 bird (85%) with no problems, but I have not been able to find 82 at all. I was looking for both birds on TP11.

I have done many check switches with the LNB hooked up and also with nothing hooked up...so that its clean.

Iam stumped...I have hooked these up b4 and was never this bad...I also have an extra LNB and tried that...nothing.

I live in Hamilton Ont....and have the skew set for 98.7 tried moving this dish around for 2 hours and came up with only 91.

On the install screen it says OK in green for 91 but for 82 theres an X.

I have tried the setup through port 1 and port 2 on the LNB....dont know if that matters thou.

This 9241 recevier has been running now for 2 months without a HD dish...He has been on watching SD channels....on the small 18 inch....so the dish has been changed...to a bell HD dish.

I have tried to give you guys all the info possible....so fire away with any thoughts on this please lol.

Thanks
Glenn

Cover the 82 side of the DPP LNBF with Duct Tape.

Set Skew, do not touch again.
Aim and peak Dish on 91.
Run Check Switch with NO cables on 9241.
Remove Duct Tape.
Connect DPP Separator to 9241, run Check Switch again.

Watch TV.

Thanks very much Pinza...I will try that tomorrow.

One other question for ya....I brought the TV out side to do the pointing...can a pc (LAPTOP) be hooked directly to the receiver? so that I dont have to haul tv outside....I have seen pc's hooked to tv, but never a pc hooked directly to the receiver.

Thanks very much
Glenn

I use a portable DVD player. Works great.

Great ideal...Thanks

With duck tape completly over the LNB, should'nt the signal read 0% even on the 91 bird? I put duck tape over the 82 bird and also the 91...just to see what it dose. It just lowered my signal by only 20%....Took my hat off and covered the whole LNB..still works.

I thought that the duck tape would block the strength?

Im still having problem with picking up 82 bird...My LNB I recevied via ebay my not be working right.

I only had a few mins today so I didnt do exactly what Pinza said, I had a signal on the dish already, 91 bird of 80%....skew was set ok. So I coverd the 82 side with duck tape and removed the seperator...did a check switch to clear everything (saved it)....hooked the sperator back up and removed the tape, did another check switch (saved it)...and the 82 bird in port 1 is still not showing up. 91 shows up in port 2.

This seem a bit werid, but covering either side of the LNB with duck tape still gives me a signal...almost llike its getting its signal from the dead center of the LNB.

This is at a buddy's house so I may have more time tomorrow..any thoughts would be great.

Thanks guys.
Glenn