: How to properly align your satellite dish - Discussion and Tips


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taxtwit
2009-01-03, 12:00 AM
Okay Taxtwit.. I've got some news. When trying to play around with the screw, i'm not able to get the 82 sat... but.. when I play around with the "azimuth" (horizontal) of the dish, I can get the 82 @ 65% signal strength... but I lose the 91 sat (message: Wrong Sat - BEV 82)

I agree with Peano that you shouldn't be adjusting the skew at all - just set it for the value for your area in the 9242 manual and don't further adjust it.

Oh, and taxtwit, all my tests are done without a switch, connecting 1 cable from each LNB into the receiver... therefore, why would it be useful now to run a checkswitch?

Running "check switch" with no cables attached clears out the receiver's memory. This sometimes helps if the receiver was previously installed using one type of switch (say, a SW21) and you're now trying to find a signal with a different switch or none at all.

If you just follow post 91/Peano's post EXACTLY, you should get 82.

P.S. FWIW, I got the same "wrong satellite BEV 82" message when I was trying to get a signal on the 91 LNB a few weeks ago when I was installing a dish for a relative and forgot to set the elevation correctly. Getting the "wrong sat BEV 82" message is becoming more common because BEV started using a new and far more powerful satellite at 82 degrees in Sept, such that I suspect it's now quite common to pick up a signal from 82, even with a poorly aimed dish. This new satellite is so strong that if you do things correctly and peak your 91 signal, you're now likely to get 100% strength when you connect to the 82 LNB.

peano
2009-01-03, 07:07 PM
While I wish I had the knowledge of Pinza, I don't. Post 91 is his, not mine. ;)

bh3535lu
2009-01-30, 01:00 PM
I too have had problems getting a signal from 82. My system worked for 2 and 1/2 years, then one day in late September, I suddenly had no signal on Sat 82.

I've tried pretty much everything that has been mentioned here previously. ie. hooked sat's up directly to the receiver one at a time, replaced the SW21, replaced the LNBF, replaced the cable to Sat 82 LNBF, adjusted the direction of the dish, etc. Nothing has worked. BEV intially told me it must be the receiver, but Sat 91 works?....On another occasion, BEV told me to adjust the dish. Not sure what else to try?

If I reset the receiver less any cables, do I risk losing anything that currently makes 91 by itself working? I don't want to lose non-HD too......

I'm located in Georgia. Someone mentioned back in 167 that the footprint changed in Sept/08, making it difficult to get a signal in the south. Does this mean I'm SOL now? Help.....

QCK
2009-01-30, 02:55 PM
I'm located in Georgia. Someone mentioned back in 167 that the footprint changed in Sept/08, making it difficult to get a signal in the south. Does this mean I'm SOL now? Help.....

Yes you are sol. Going North you need to be at least equal to where Nashville lies. If you want Canadain HD channels where live now you will need to use a sling box or get Star Choice.

bh3535lu
2009-02-01, 11:17 AM
Thanks for the response. What is a sling box? Is it something associated with BEV? How/where do you get one?

Pinza
2009-02-01, 11:26 AM
Nothing to do with Bell at all.

Have a look on Google.

bh3535lu
2009-02-01, 11:35 AM
ok thanks. All I want to do is watch HD TV in my living room. Which slingbox model do I really need? Does it always involve running a pC and the internet? Probably stupid questions, this is something new for me.

Pinza
2009-02-01, 11:38 AM
Have you tried Google.?

If you want Canadian HD, you need to look into getting Starchoice, otherwise try DirecTv or Dish Network. Then again why not look into OTA for your HD solution.

bh3535lu
2009-02-01, 11:54 AM
Direct tv does not seem to provide Canadian channel content. What is OTA? Are you an installer?

Pinza
2009-02-01, 11:56 AM
That was why I said get Starchoice. I NEVER said DirecTv had Canadian content.

A quick search on Google returned this information for OTA;

Over-The-Air (OTA) Digital Television - Digital Forum
Discuss OTA stations, antennas and related topics. See the OTA reception forum to discuss reception in your city or town. The OTA forum is sponsored by Save ...
www.digitalhome.ca/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=81 - 86k - Cached - Similar pages -

No.

bh3535lu
2009-02-01, 12:04 PM
Thanks for trying to help.

neonlyte
2009-02-20, 11:20 PM
Currently I have a 9241, 9200, and 6100 receiver hooked up. I split the 91 and 82 signals using the high frequency splitter method posted in the cascading SW44 switch for 5+ tuners thread.

On my 9200 I get 82 on both tuners, on the 9241 I have 82 on both, but my 6100 can't get 82. It says wrong sat 91. I went up to the switch and changed two of the receiver cables around to see if it would change anything, and now the 6100 has 82, but one of the tuners on the 9241 doesnt get 82.

It can't be a cable problem because the cable im using for that output is the same one i was using before i added the 2nd switch. It also can't be the problem of the switch because all the other tuners are working, its just one that isnt. I've tried using check switch to see if it would pick it up but that did not work either.

The one that's not picking up 82 is the first output on my original switch (it used to pick up 82 before i added the second switch).

Do they have a limit on how many tuners can use the 82 satellite from the same residence? Or is something else to blame? Thank you for your help.

SJ44
2009-02-20, 11:35 PM
I split the signals using the high frequency splitter method
Splitter?

neonlyte
2009-02-20, 11:50 PM
i used the first method as posted herehttp://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=79134

neonlyte
2009-02-20, 11:51 PM
i used the first method posted in the cascading SW44 switch for 5+ tuners

kandkt
2009-02-21, 01:00 AM
Are you using all port power passing high frequency splitters? Make sure that when you feed a HF splitter, that the output goes to the same port on both switches. Also, do you have power inserters on both switches? Switch the power inserters to see if the problem stays with the same receiver or not. Cables and connectors could also be causing problems. You could also have a bad output on one of the switches ... try a different output.

lonnie
2009-02-21, 01:22 PM
are the 2 switches the exact same manufacturer and model? you may not see it labelled on the 1A/1B, 2A/2B inputs but each one of the pairs have either 13 or 18 volts on them. it's important that the same voltage is going into each of the high frequency splitters. if you have a volt meter you can measure at each cable end that goes into each splitter to make sure you have 13 volts from the number 1 input on the switch going to the same hf splitter that's connected to the 91 lnb. likewise the 18 volt cables from the number 1 switch inputs should connect to the hf splitter that's fed from the 91 lnb as well.
with all the extra connections and splitters in the system you could be losing enough voltage by the time it gets to the lnb that you're not getting the polarity selected by 18 volts. you would have to measure the voltage while the cable is hooked up though. you might be able to do that with a short piece of cable that you've carefully stripped the insulation away from the inside wire and outside shield so that you can measure without breaking the circuit. be careful not to short the center wire to the shield as the switches are not very good at surviving that kind of abuse.

neonlyte
2009-02-21, 05:50 PM
i fiddled around with it a bit and discovered that there was a problem with the 1st output of my original switch (it worked before, dunno why it doesnt work now)

to work around that problem i plugged the cable that was originally in that spot to the 2nd output of the new switch

then i got a spare cable from the dollar store and ran that from the first input into the garage where i plugged in the power unit

now i get 82/91 on all 5 tuners

not really the ideal way to do it but it works on all tv's and i guess thats all that matters

thanks for the help! problem solved

kandkt
2009-02-22, 02:28 PM
The 1st output on a SW44 is a common failure, don't know why, but it is.

Glad you are up and running.

Electricalmagic
2009-04-05, 11:22 PM
Hi I was wondering if anyone has a similar problem down in Phoenix.We can get sat 91 with great signal strength.Using a Bell 500 dish with dual lnbs we can't find 82.I have tried diff sw44 and diff lnbs but still have no luck.Any suggestions.