: 2012 Stanley Cup Playoffs Schedule


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roger1818
2012-04-10, 01:51 PM
Game one and game three of the Capitals-Bruins series will be on CHEX Peterborough.

Are you implying that it will only be on CHEX-TV - Peterborough and not CHEX-TV-2 - Oshawa (they are a split feed and air different programming)? The link you provided just say CHEX, so it suggests that it will be on both.

It would be nice if they also put the game on its sister station CKWS - Kingston as I gather (correct me if I am wrong) it is in a similar situation as CHEX, with both CBOT and CKWS being on cable in Kingston.

BTW, according to High Definition TV at CHEX TV (http://www.chextv.com/general/High_Definition_TV_at_CHEX_TV.aspx), CBC programming (and David Letterman) is available in HD on Cogeco, so I suspect this game will be available in HD to those who can receive its HD channel (complain to your service provider if you can't).

PokerFace
2012-04-10, 03:09 PM
The NHL PAYoffs: Money does the talking and the Canadian fans get the shaft!

CHEX Peterborough and CHEX 2 (Durham/Oshawa) do carry different regional programming (according to wikipedia), however, since the Canadian NHL rights issues are far too complex (and unfair as compared to the United States -- even national games on CNBC, MSNBC and USA Network are allowed -- if necessary) for me to follow, I suppose a miracle might occur and somehow the games will be on both versions of CHEX. I would be surprised if that happened, but I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope that somebody presses the wrong button.

CBC's Bold (perhaps soon to be sold to Bell and re-branded as Cold FX -- featuring special-effect based movies that deal with cold climates) isn't a regional channel, so even if the NHL contract allowed Bold to air NHL playoff games, that fact alone would probably kill any chance of the NHL playoff games ever appearing there (since the main CBC channels would be the logical choices to carry the national broadcasts).

Sportsnet gets shut out of the NHL playoffs, but NBC has enough bucks to get everything televised nationally -- to the few that care.

We can't even beat the Americans at televising hockey properly, so how in the world will we ever catch up in other areas?

FX Canada ... not on Bell.

Cold FX ... won't be on Rogers.

NHL Hockey Playoffs ... soon to be blacked out in Canada.

Disclaimer: Even if CHEX 2 is actually scheduled to air the two Wash/Boston games, I would still prefer national broadcasts for every playoff game. I also love bashing Canada whenever it appears that the Americans will be getting better TV coverage (of anything).

Jason316
2012-04-10, 03:23 PM
We can't even beat the Americans at televising hockey properly

What are you talking aboot? This is the FIRST TIME EVER fans in the states will see every playoff series televised;)

hwy19man
2012-04-10, 07:03 PM
Are you implying that it will only be on CHEX-TV - Peterborough and not CHEX-TV-2 - Oshawa (they are a split feed and air different programming)? The link you provided just say CHEX, so it suggests that it will be on both.

It would be nice if they also put the game on its sister station CKWS - Kingston as I gather (correct me if I am wrong) it is in a similar situation as CHEX, with both CBOT and CKWS being on cable in Kingston.
I wish all the private CBC affiliates would be showing the game. Thunder Bay, Lloydminster, Prince Rupert, and Dawson Creek have stations that do show HNIC and in the recent past CHEK Victoria showed HNIC playoff games.

I have not received an email from CHEX clarifying the Oshawa station televising the Capitals-Bruins game.

roger1818
2012-04-11, 07:36 AM
I don't know about all affiliates showing the game (if nothing else they are privately owned and should get the choice), but certainly those in markets that also get a CBC network stations as it allows the affiliate to be distinct. I do like the idea of putting it on CHEK though.

PokerFace
2012-04-11, 11:32 AM
No choice for the affiliates ... I assume it's a regional thing that the NHL is responsible for.

The Rogers IPG now lists the OTT/Rangers game for digital channel 129 (which is CHEX 2 Oshawa for me) ... just like all the other CBC affiliates that I have available.

When asked to comment about the state of the NHL PAYoff scandal in Canada, Tim Thomas said this:

"I believe the Federal government has grown out of control, threatening the Rights, Liberties, and Property of the People. This is being done at the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial level. This is in direct opposition to the Constitution and the Founding Fathers vision for the Federal government."

Hmmm. That certainly sounds familiar. I think he said the same thing when he was thrown out of either White Castle or IHOP (International House of Pancakes) because he refused to take his goalie pads off.

roger1818
2012-04-11, 01:36 PM
No choice for the affiliates ... I assume it's a regional thing that the NHL is responsible for.

I disagree. The CBC has the national rights to the 4 series they are showing, so they can show any of them in any Canadian city they want. When it comes to affiliates, I would be very surprised if the CBC can tell the affiliate which game they get, but rather the affiliate can choose any game the CBC has rights to. This will be in the contract between the affiliate and the CBC however, and has nothing to do with the NHL.

When it comes to CHEX games, I assume CBC has worked out some sort of special deal, possibly giving them exclusive rights to the games in question.

kirjtc2
2012-04-11, 01:52 PM
Whenever any of the US networks regionalize sports, the network dictates to the affiliates which game to air. The station can ask to be switched to another game, but the network doesn't always grant the request.

CBC has stripped its local stations down so much I'm not sure if they even can request anything anymore.

I'm pretty sure that if it were purely based on ratings, Caps-Bruins would air in Atlantic Canada and the rest of the country could at least watch it on the timeshifting package, but I think it's more of HNIC's pro-Canadian jingoism at work here.

Jay
2012-04-11, 03:27 PM
The NHL PAYoffs: Money does the talking and the Canadian fans get the shaft!

CHEX Peterborough and CHEX 2 (Durham/Oshawa) do carry different regional programming (according to wikipedia), however, since the Canadian NHL rights issues are far too complex (and unfair as compared to the United States -- even national games on CNBC, MSNBC and USA Network are allowed -- if necessary) for me to follow, I suppose a miracle might occur and somehow the games will be on both versions of CHEX. I would be surprised if that happened, but I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope that somebody presses the wrong button.

CBC's Bold (perhaps soon to be sold to Bell and re-branded as Cold FX -- featuring special-effect based movies that deal with cold climates) isn't a regional channel, so even if the NHL contract allowed Bold to air NHL playoff games, that fact alone would probably kill any chance of the NHL playoff games ever appearing there (since the main CBC channels would be the logical choices to carry the national broadcasts).

Sportsnet gets shut out of the NHL playoffs, but NBC has enough bucks to get everything televised nationally -- to the few that care.

We can't even beat the Americans at televising hockey properly, so how in the world will we ever catch up in other areas?

FX Canada ... not on Bell.

Cold FX ... won't be on Rogers.

NHL Hockey Playoffs ... soon to be blacked out in Canada.

Disclaimer: Even if CHEX 2 is actually scheduled to air the two Wash/Boston games, I would still prefer national broadcasts for every playoff game. I also love bashing Canada whenever it appears that the Americans will be getting better TV coverage (of anything).
There is no regional games during the NHL playoffs in Canada, they are all national games in English and French. So it means no black-outs for the Caps/Bruins game in the Senators broadcast region, even if you live downtown Ottawa. Of course you need access to CHEX or RDS2 to see the game.

Rogers should give access to CHEX Peterborough, that would be much easier. Or put RDS2 somewhere in their lineup. Or RDS Info (which is available on Rogers and showing St-Louis/San Jose) should switch games with RDS2 (which is scheduled to show Caps/Bruins). Maybe RDS Info would see an increase in their Ontario subscribers that way, but I guess they didn't think about that...

PokerFace
2012-04-11, 04:56 PM
The good news is that CBC will be switching between the two series (during the staggered intermissions -- as mentioned by Ron MacLean), and since the Wash/Boston series starts a half-hour later, we won't miss as much of those two CHEX (Peterborough) games as we normally would have. The diehard fans will still be upset, but that's to be expected.

However, as long as there are no last minute changes made by the CBC, the CBC has basically made tomorrow's Wash/Boston game a "regional" game; it certainly is aware of the fact that many Canadians won't get to see it in its entirety (though based on the confusion, the CBC doesn't seem to be emphasizing that fact very well, probably because the games will also be available for streaming on its own website). There are no Canadian teams involved, but since the CBC has the rights to that American series, why not pass the two conflicting games to CHEX Peterborough?

It makes the most sense to place those two American-team games in a region that is outside of the CBLT (CBC Toronto) broadcast region (unlike the CHEX2 signal which is within CBLT's broadcast region). It also allows the Ottawa Senators to achieve a greater audience, by limiting those two broadcasts to CHEX Peterborough (the only Canadian English broadcaster) and thus keeping it off the NHL Centre Ice package (I'm assuming that the rules of the NHL Centre Ice package won't allow any CBC games to be part of it -- unless perhaps the games were only available in French).

It would be a nice touch if the CBC rebroadcast those two Wash/Boston games in the early morning hours (like the regular season Saturday night games), but I don't see anything like that listed in the guides.

http://www.sourcecable.ca/assets/docs/Super%20Sports%20Pack.pdf


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHEX-TV-2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHEX-TV

On April 21, 2009, [I]CHEX was the only CBC station to carry a NHL playoff game between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia over a game between St. Louis and Vancouver. They were able to do this because of CBLT's availability on cable. In the 1980s, CHEX would carry the Montreal Canadiens games on Hockey Night in Canada, over the relatively nearby Toronto Maple Leafs. The main broadcast tower is 1,000 feet (305 m) high, making the top 1,842 feet above sea level. CHEX-TV-2 in the Durham Region, formerly a semi-satellite, now airs a very different schedule from the Peterborough station.

This NHL Centre Ice scheduling nonsense happens primarily during the regular season, but since this is the playoffs, it would be nice if the NHL would limit CBC's flexibility (I have a dream...).

It's purely speculation on my part, but I'm quite sure that the Ottawa Senators don't want CHEX Peterborough to air the Wash/Boston game, and I doubt that CHEX Peterborough would choose to air the Wash/Boston game if it had the choice (even if the local fans requested it). However, since the CBC gets to play musical regions with this series, the fans are once again left out in the cold.

Both the NFL and the NHL have silly broadcast rules that annoy the fans.

I blame the NHL for not having a loophole in the contract that would allow the NHL Centre Ice package to include the two Wash/Boston games as part of the package.

During the regular season, when Sportsnet has its regional NHL games blacked out in my area, I could still watch them if I paid for the NHL Centre Ice package.

The NHL Center Ice package rules for the United States seem to be even more restrictive than ours, but since this is the NHL playoffs we are talking about, it would be nice if the NHL found a way to stop this CBC "regional" problem from happening in the future.

No system is perfect, and losing out on two games isn't the end of the world, but since it's the NHL that agreed to the contract terms, I hold it primarily responsible.

After reading the NHL Center Ice restrictions for the United States (on wikipedia), it looks like Canada's system of distributing the NHL games to its fans might have a few advantages (though I still think that TSN and Sportsnet should be part of basic cable in every region). I can't comment on the HD aspect, but I'm quite certain that there are some US cable companies out there that also have limited HD broadcasts of various NHL games.

magnet
2012-04-11, 05:01 PM
I'm guessing die hard fans can still watch the video stream of BOS/ WASH on cbcsports.ca.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/broadcast/

CBC Bold's licensing prevents them from showing any of the top 4 sports (NHL/NFL/MLB or NBA). They are allowed to show soccer and olympic sports.

DSgamby
2012-04-11, 05:03 PM
However, Sportsnet is a regional broadcaster and CBC is a national broadcaster. No CBC games are on CI and CHEX is part of CBC.

reidw
2012-04-11, 05:29 PM
@pokerface: There are so many misconceptions in your little ramble that I wouldn't know where to start a critique. One point there is no Centre Ice during the playoffs. Check your IPG. No games listed tonight or any other night. There is a blurb about checking back for info. about the 2012-2013 season soon.

SportsFan
2012-04-11, 05:51 PM
CBC Bold's licensing prevents them from showing any of the top 4 sports (NHL/NFL/MLB or NBA).I don't think it does, but they've never had cable rights to any of those leagues. I think the only limitation is 10% of their schedule per week to sports. NB Josh explained:Because TSN has exclusive cable rights. Just as TSN can't put a game on CTV, CBC can't put a game on Bold.

PokerFace
2012-04-11, 05:58 PM
I realize that Sportsnet is a regional broadcaster, but I would argue that the CBC is broadcasting the Wash/Boston game as a "regional" game with national rights.

I already noticed that the American version of Center Ice doesn't include any playoff games, but I know that the Canadian version (Centre Ice) used to include them if they were not aired on Canadian TV. The wiki page still mentions that select playoff games are broadcast on Centre Ice (when they are not on Canadian TV).

It could be that there's a new deal that no longer includes the playoffs for the Canadian Centre Ice package, but many years ago, I did see some NHL playoff games (from first 2 rounds) listed as part of the Centre Ice package on my Rogers IPG.

However, now that TSN2 is available, and CBC likes to add "regional" (hello, CHEX) playoff games to its lineup, I doubt that we will be seeing any playoff games on the Canadian Centre Ice package (even if it's still allowed) in the near future.

leaffan1967
2012-04-11, 06:16 PM
Bold is prohibited from "professional stick and ball sports" as per CRTC license. See: Hockey, Baseball, Football, Basketball. But that is for another thread.

As for Centre Ice, I vividly remember promos saying playoff coverage, however this was before the latest deals with CBC/TSN were signed, recall that before these deals, ALL Canadian games aired on CBC, and TSN would get whatever was left (max of 4 series on TSN). This came in handy back when it was normal for several Canadian teams to make it. (and some early, such as EDM @ DET or @ DAL a couple times.

ESPN
2012-04-11, 06:32 PM
On Rogers Cable, CNBC is listed as airing Predators-Red Wings tonight and Sharks-Blues tomorrow. I am assuming the channel will be blacked out during the duration of those 2 games to protect the CBC and TSN's rights

leaffan1967
2012-04-11, 06:35 PM
You will receive alternate programming on CNBC, same as NFL Network does on Thursday Nights when Sportsnet shows those games.

kirjtc2
2012-04-11, 08:28 PM
Tried to stream part of the Red Wings game to test it out before tomorrow night. It crashed in 30 seconds. Tried again...crashed within 30 seconds again.

If CBC thinks this is in any way remotely acceptable, they're wrong. It's obvious to me that they're holding onto the BOS-WSH rights just to keep them from TSN.

I'm seriously thinking of boycotting all CBC broadcasts from here on in just out of principle.

DSgamby
2012-04-11, 08:34 PM
It works fine for me. What browser you have?

I can only get it to work on IE8. Don't have IE9 because it screws up NHL 2004.