: Could iOS kill console gaming?
2012-03-19, 02:15 AM
Sure, my sources are the financial statements for MSFT, available from the investor section of their website.
Just add up the profit/losses in the Entertainment and Devices division going back the past ten tears since they entered the console business. It's a net loss, despite a modest profit the last couple of years. Sales don't mean much when you're losing money, and recent profitable quarters don't mean much when a product is nearing the end of its lifecycle.
I only bring it up because its an additional pressure that both MSFT and SON have to deal with. Investors are rightfully going to challenge these losing strategies while Apple is outperforming.
2012-03-19, 12:53 PM
the 99 cent games play like 99 cent games tho
there is a HUGE gap in the quality of games for iOS and windows/xbox/ps3/nintendo
Not true. There are some awesome games for 99˘ and some real gems for over $4. Add to that they go on sale every now and then. The $60 game is going to be a tough sell for console makers and kids parents.
2013-07-14, 10:52 PM
I bought my new Ipad 4 few months ago and love it, Ipad 4 with 32 gig/4g LTE. Though I'm kicking myself for I should have just got Wifi only version with more space, Like 64 gig.. But still love it,
I use my Ipad for:
- keeping in touch with my sister/friend via texting
- quickly looking information on simple stuff
- checking email,
- killing time when waiting in busy dr office.
- playing causal games when out and about lol
- Use as camera if you don't have one lol
- Watching netflix at night in bed, with Ipad sitting on book.
I've lost count how many times I gone into a store or some place and I'm trying explain something or ask a question or something and/or show somebody something, can quickly take snap shot, send to friend/sister or just show it too them.. they like " Oh I see now " lol.
my parents don't even have a computer and there cell phone is so old, it only does very basic functions. While visiting them about month ago. I showed my mom how use basic web browsing and she was slowly figuring things out, While I have tried to show her how use a mouse on my laptop, she often got upset.
Apple very well could move into the gaming world, They could get a good deal on Intel i5 or i7 cpu with decent Nvidia GPU that could kick ps4/xbox one but if they wanted too. If Nvidia could cut a good deal with apple. Or maybe a Nvidia could supply them custom Cpu/GPU all in one system like AMD did. Apple already has great App store there all setup to deliver full games, They could even perhaps sign on some other gaming companies that could make only excluse games to Apple console or Mac/ Apple products and force microsoft/Sony to cringed a bit in fear or concern.
I like all systems for each different reasons. I re-built home made PC for hard core gaming with Asus motherboard. intel I7 Cpu/ With Nvidia GTX 670 GPU video card, yes I know I can hook up my new home made PC my Large screen tv if i wanted too (Already do sometime when play steam games).
I still love my 360/ps3, and plan on getting ps4 when comes out, but doubt I'll buy xbox one, as that what my home made PC basically is now.. lol.
But some new blood like Apple console/gaming/home entertainment system hooked up to my HD Tv, works with my ipad 4 might be interesting.
The main reason Id like see this happen, Better more quality type games, perhaps only exclusive to apple. As much as I still like both Sony/Microsoft.
So many console/PC games we're so disappointing and/or had more bug and glitches, seems many games companies just do not care anymore other then getting your money from your wallet. Like Gaming companies like EA.
EA was voted the worst gaming company of 2013.
(Example the SlimCity I wish I never bought. / AC3, good game, but had so many glitches on pc/Ps3/xbox side))
Apple console might be interesting to see if had decent Intel CPU with good
GPU or GPU/CPU system. id love see Apple console with Intel Cpu/ and Nvidia GPU system.. Could they make something like that for under $500 that the gamers/consumers would jump on? Who knows..
But currently, iOs/Apple as game killer? *Shrugs* they are doing prety well now as causal games now, who is say it don't get better and/or move into more hard core games in the future..
2013-07-15, 01:33 AM
Apple very well could move into the gaming world, They could get a good deal on Intel i5 or i7 cpu with decent Nvidia GPU that could kick ps4/xbox one but if they wanted too.
This is a fun game of "make a cheap gaming PC that is better than next-gen consoles".
As a reference, the GPU in the PS3 is almost exactly the power of a Radeon 7770, and the Xbox One has a Radeon 7750. Checking NCIX I can find a 7770 for $119.99 (with free shipping!)
The AMD CPU in the next gen console has a lot of cores, but each core is a very slow core. They're better than Intel Atom cores, but not by much. Each core in a Ivy Bridge processor would be "worth" about 4-5 of the AMD cores going into the consoles, so a dual-core Core i3 would be more than enough to slap around the CPUs in the Xbox One and the PS4 in almost any scenario.
The memory in the PS4 is GDDR 5. This means it has very high bandwidth, but is extremely high latency. For certain applications this is good (e.g. video cards), but for more general purpose code this is a very bad thing. This is why high-end PCs don't use GDDR5 for system RAM, and only video cards use it.
But since the next-gen consoles are a unified memory architecture they needed to go with one or the other. So, in the PS4 the CPU took the hit so that the GPU benefits, and in the Xbox One the GPU took the hit so that the CPU benefits.
I guess this is another way of saying not to worry about not having GDDR5 in your gaming PCs system memory, for almost all the code running on your PC (including games) DDR3 is superior, and the graphics card can have its GDDR5. Best of both worlds.
So, when we do the math we get something like this:
CPU: $130 Intel Core i3-3220
Motherboard: $96 (GA-H77-DS3H)
Memory: $90 (8GB DDR3-1600)
Graphics: $130 GeForce GTX 650 Ti (faster than a Radeon 7770)
Storage: $70 Segate 1TB 7200RPM drive
Case: $60 Corsair Carbide 200R
PSU: $50 Corsair CX430M
~$640 worth of parts. It is faster than either next-gen console, but there it doesn't include any game controllers. Also, the Xbox One has the Kinect, which isn't something we can replicate right now with PC parts. But I would have no reservations putting this up against a PS4.
There isn't a tonne of margin on this gear, so I figure it would cost Apple about $500 to put something like this together. But then they would have to sell it at practically zero margin, which is very un-Apple like.
2013-07-24, 08:10 PM
The mobile-based future is here, and publisher Electronic Arts is reaping the rewards. EA reported today that it made more money through Apple’s App Store than any other retail distributor. That includes its own Origin digital-download service (http://venturebeat.com/2013/07/23/ea-made-more-sales-on-ios-than-any-other-platform-last-quarter/)
I continue to believe the next gen of consoles will be the last.
2013-07-24, 08:23 PM
I wonder how much of that came from in-apps purchases. Some parents are discovering with horror what those are.
2013-07-24, 09:24 PM
This article puts the Apple-related sales in perspective. All iOS and Android smartphone and tablet sales accounted for about 18% of EA total sales.
Moore didn’t say exactly how much revenue Apple was responsible for. But, of $495 million in total revenue EA posted for the quarter, $378 million was digital, and $90 million of that originated on smartphones and tablets. So, some portion of that. (http://allthingsd.com/20130724/electronic-arts-top-retail-partner-apple/)