: Shaw DCT6208 Errors / Problems / Questions / Impressions
2004-10-27, 12:54 PM
When the 6208 is set to record, it powers itself on, records, then powers down. A number of times I have been watching TV when the box powers itself down, so I push power fairly quickly to bring it back up. The 6208 seems to go crazy for a few minutes when this is done - blinking and flashing, no output to TV other than the guide which is also flashing, etc. Has anyone else seen this problem? Anyone know what causes it? I've always managed to get it to return to normal, but I'm not sure how - whether it's keypresses, or just a certain amount of time.
2004-10-27, 01:42 PM
When the 6208 is set to record, it powers itself on, records, then powers down. A number of times I have been watching TV when the box powers itself down
Yes, this is one of the dumbest things about this box. It is very annoying to be watching something and have it suddenly turn itself off when it is finished recording a program. My solution is to leave it on all the time.
2004-10-28, 01:59 AM
Has anyone found the 30 second skip cheat code for the 6208?
2004-10-28, 02:42 AM
Has anyone found the 30 second skip cheat code for the 6208?Yes, here:
I've added that link to the first post. Thanks for finding it, I wasn't about to look through the whole thread for it...
2004-10-30, 05:44 PM
I believe that it has been found out that the 'delay' in decoding the HD channels has been associated with Motorola and a fix is in the works!!!
2004-10-31, 07:50 PM
Some are complaining about the Analog PQ of the 620x box. I believe this is because these boxes are not sending the analog signal directly to TV but instead are sending the compressed MPEG data from its onboard encoder (yes, the 6200 does this even though it does not have a HDD - dumping an analog show via firewire proves this). Remember that everything on the 6208 is constantly being recorded as you watch live TV, including analog channels. This MPEG2 encoding will theoretically result in poorer PQ so explains why other STB's and TVs provide better analog quality. It has to do it this way because of the way PVR works - it stores only digital streams - the analog ones from the realtime MPEG2 encoder, while leaving digital broadcasts alone and recording the native stream. They use lower compression for analog because the onboard MPEG2 encoder is probably not as high quality to produce lower bitrate streams in realtime as compared to the equipment they have at the source.
I talked to Shaw about analog picture quality and was told that there was an auto setting that is not the 6208 default and that is not set by Shaw on installation but that does need to be set to improve analog picture quality. If I actually had a 6208 I would have followed this up further.
2004-11-01, 07:55 PM
I don't experience any delay with HD channels... never have. I hope they dont wreck mine when they "fix" it.
2004-11-01, 11:32 PM
I don't experience any delay with HD channels... never have. I hope they dont wreck mine when they "fix" it.
Where are you located?
2004-11-02, 10:42 PM
After the new software (S/W Version 70.51 and Firmware 08.12) was loaded today, I timed the Fast Forward speed FF4 on a HD recording and a SD recording. I got about 18X for HD and about 40X for SD. The last time I timed it was quite awhile ago and the speeds were about 8X for HD and 11X for SD. I was hoping for 25X for HD and 100X for SD. My Panasonic external HDD recorder advertises a max of 100X for SD although I haven't measured it. The Panasonic was certainly much, much faster than the 6208 on SD content.
It would be nice to have faster FF speeds but I can live with 18X for HD and 40X for SD if these speeds hold up.
The problem with changing HD channels seems to have been solved. At least no problems so far.
2004-11-06, 03:43 PM
Just an update on my brother's 6208... He moved from Cogeco country to Shaw, and at first the Shaw CSR said it wasn't possible to enable his Cogeco 6208 on the Shaw network and that he'd have to buy a new one. My brother told them he had been told it could indeed be done (I had phoned Shaw tech a month or so ago about it). The CSR insisted it wasn't possible, however he was now willing to offer to do a straight trade of the Cogeco 6208 for a Shaw 6208.
My brother told the CSR to talk to the tech guys about it, and a few minutes later the CSR got back to him and said it would in fact be no problem to enable the Cogeco unit.
Interesting thing... when they enabled it they didn't hit it with new firmware/software, so he is currently using the Cogeco "Blue Guide" instead of the Shaw "I-Guide", and not having any problems. (He also still has access to all the shows he had saved on the DVR.)
Since his wife is comfortable with the Blue Guide he's not in any rush to get rid of it right now. I imagine that the next time Shaw pushes out a 6208 update he'll lose the Blue Guide, but for now he's probably quite unique in having it on the Shaw network!
2004-11-06, 07:36 PM
Have run into problems with Fast Forwarding. I recorded 4 programs, starting early this morning. I tried to play them back and found that using the Fast Forward button caused the box to very quickly bring up the End of Recording message of Erase or Keep Recording. Keeping the recording and just playing back at normal speed seems to work okay. As soon as I hit the FF key, though, the end of recording message comes up.
I had one recording made a few days ago that doesn't have a problem with fast forwarding. It was a recording in HD whereas the four this morning are from a SD digital channel. I have only been recording from HD channels lately so don't know whether this came about from the recent software change or not.
I called Shaw but didn't get any help except to check the remote batteries and an E-Mail on how to add the 30 second advance to the remote.
I erased all four recording and just have the one HD recording left.
I just tried another recording from another SD digital channel and it won't Fast Forward either. Same End of Recording message.
I'll try recording from an analog channel and a a HD channel to see whether it is related to the type of channel.
I know there was one report earlier in this thread about FF problems but I didn't see any further reports of problems. Am I the only one having this problem.
2004-11-06, 08:03 PM
Alan...I have the same FF problem. For me it only occurs on some SD channels (131 to 135). Other SD, analong and HD are OK. It affects both recordings and the live buffer. I told Shaw about it and they were able to recreate the problem on a box in their office. Said they'd get back to me (still waiting).
2004-11-06, 08:18 PM
You are the one reporting a problem earlier in this thread, I think.
I just finished some quick tests and found that recording from HD or an analog channel gave no problems in fast forwording but the SD digital channel I tried gave the problem. I'll try to check out other SD digital channels to see if any work properly. I was using one of the Sportsnet digital channels to test with as it was the one I was recording this morning.
When did you first experience the problem? I didn't have it when I first got the 6208 I am sure. I did experiment with the recording capability on SD digital and SD analog when I first got the 6208 but have only used the 6208 lately to record HD programming until today. I usually use an external Panasonic HDD/DVD recorder for most SD programming and reserve the 6208 for HD but my Panasonic was pretty full and the 6208 had plenty of space so I used it today. Another strange behaviour for the 6208.
2004-11-06, 08:32 PM
Alan... Yes, I reported it earlier but no one else seemed to have the problem. It's been like that since I bought the box in mid September and the last firmware upgrade didn't fix it. I've accidentally deleted a few shows when the end of recording message popped up. Now I just use the skip forward/back buttons instead but it's a huge pain.
2004-11-06, 09:03 PM
Robobob...I have the problem on channel 71, 72 and 73 so far. I checked channels 131, 132 and 133 and they are okay as is 55. I'll keep trying channels and see if I can get qet list of channels that have the problem. A long tedious process.
When you say you use the skip forward/back buttons, which ones do you mean? There is a 30 second skip code that isn't on the original remote but can be programmed on it. Is that the one you mean for skip forward? For the skip back, do you mean the one above the REW button?
2004-11-06, 11:31 PM
Alan....Yes , that's what I meant about skip forward/back. The 30 sec commercial skip that you can program in works as does the button above the rewind key. The first speed in either direction (FF1,REW1) work too but any faster in either direction does not. I poked around the status menus to see if there was anything different between the channels that work and the channels that don't but nothing jumped out at me.
2004-11-07, 03:09 AM
First off where do you find the link to do a new post. I looked everywhere but I must be blind. Anyways i just got my shaw dct6208 today. Havent had a lot of time to play with it but the HD really does look good. I have to agree that i did notice a decrease in the quality of the other channels. My box even when i turn it off continues to make a whirring noise and does not seem to stop, is this normal? i also notice when i am watch 301 hd that every few seconds the picture will get a little bit grainy through the middle of the screen. Is this shaw do you think or the cables that they provide with the box. should i try more expensive cables? and finally my last question for now is does the dvi make a huge difference from component or is it something that i will not even notice.
thanks for any info you can give me :p
2004-11-07, 12:47 PM
Spidinator, most, if not all of your questions can be answered by using the search function. But, since you're new:
At the bottom of a given set of threads you'll see a button that says New Thread.
The box is never really off. The fan continues on and so does the hard drive from what I remember. That's the whirring sounds you hear.
Graininess in pictures is caused by a variety of things including fast moving objects and lack of bandwidth given to a specific program. More expensive cables should not help if its what I think your seeing.
And, DVI will usually only make a difference if you have a fixed pixel display like a Plasma or LCD flat panel, LCD, DLP or LCoS RPTV. If your watching on a direct view tube or a CRT based RPTV, it won't really make a big difference if any. I only use it to free up a component input on my direct view CRT TV.
2004-11-07, 02:01 PM
thanks for the info Icemann, much appreciated. So i guess i wont go to DVI then if it doesnt make a big difference. When i was reading the manual last night it seemed to say that there was something you could do on the menu to make the box adjust better when switching back and forth from digital to analog. Has anybody accomplished this? :o