I'm getting Global on 4.1 in Craig Henry with an FM twinlead antenna stretched above a window at ceiling level, at the opposite end of the house from Camp Fortune. the antenna is plugged into the the VHF port of an old CM 0264 preamp, with the FM trap "in".

I haven't tried the FM antenna without the preamp, or with the FM trap "out".

Reception with an unamplified HDTVa Silver Sensor clone with rabbit ears is not reliable on the second floor, and next to impossible on the first floor, even on the side of the house facing Camp Fortune.

the first floor testing was done with an RCA DTA800B converter, while the ground floor testing is with an EyeTV hybrid on a mac laptop.

FM twinlead antenna + ch6 join-tenna... that would sound like an easy patch option to try out.

I get Global on 6.1 on my Viewsonic, but my Samsung cannot see it. The Samsung is also annoying in that it seems like it will not accept a direct entry tuning (entering 6-1) without first having it in the list of autoscanned entries (it just goes to 4.1).

I have tried feeding it with the highest power I can by taking out the splitter but to no avail. It has no trouble receiving all the other digital channels (like 4.1, and 66.1), even with multiple splitters.

Could there be an issue with Samsung's firmware, and how it processes the PSIP data? Are there any conflicts with the data or RF between Global and other stations that Samsung may not like?

I have two SBGH's in the attic; a regular GH4 pointed at CF, and a VHF-Hi optimized one pointed at HC, both are combined with a splitter. There's also a ch13 dipole splittered onto the run, and a cheap pre-amp, feeding multiple runs of 50' of RG-6.

Thanks for any advice

I've been having the same problem with my Samsung, including not excepting the direct entry... where as my Panasonic is working perfectly for global.

old sparks, is that dipole just bare copper wire or is it actually twin lead?

I was getting Global perfectly at noon on Monday then thought I'd re-arrange some coax and eliminate my rabbit ears. I fumed for 24hrs as the signal was significantly reduced (using TSReader) and I believed that they were still tweaking it. Then I moved the coax AWAY from my computer power supply and an in-expensive signal amp. Solved. Sometimes the obvious can be overlooked.
Globals signal is so weak the interference killed it although every other channel was fine.

To be specific: my issue with Global TV on VHF-low channel 6 is most certainly one of building penetration. I’m in an apartment building in north east Ottawa (TVFool (http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d9e748f5c86e0c3)), not too far from Camp Fortune, but facing south, so signals need to traverse some of the building to get to my rabbit ears (VHF+UHF). With a long cable extension and my antenna in the hallway pointed to the north I can get a very weak Global TV signal. Inside the apartment my TV doesn’t even acknowledge a signal exists from Global TV on channel 6.1. And to be fair, I did not get a clear Global TV reception in analog before.

The thing is, however, that right now I get a strong signal with clear digital HD reception from CBOT 25, CBOFT 22, TVO 24 and Sun News 20 without any issues (all UHF), for now... which is why I’m a little worried now about CBOFT moving down to channel 9 and CTV staying on 13. (But I also feel lucky to get all HC’s stations perfect, and both PBSs plus Fox+CBS ok at night)

It seems the consensus is that UHF carries less far but penetrates buildings better, whereas VHF carries further but has little building penetration? But Global TV’s signal also being so weak in power doesn’t help anyone.

So sign me up for an all UHF digital TV petition.

To the guys with Samsungs, just hit 6 then enter on your remote and it will first check DTV channel 6 and then secondly analog channel 6. Both my Sammy's seem to work okay this way when I scan and then turn my rotor to add all my channels from the states and the other day when I was able to get Global only for a moment before it crapped out again. Yes there are firmware updates available on their website. In fact when I first brought our 46" home from the store it already had an update available LOL.

Best of luck to anyone who is still trying to RX Global DTV 6 in Ottawa and area. I gave up yesterday. I still have not even got a reply from Global on my e-mail from a couple days ago.

Last night I discovered that my handmedown combo antenna didn't survive the last thunderstorm, some of the elements got blown back and the upper reflector got knock down. Those old rivets must have come lose again, so I silicon everything.
I was hoping that that would solve my Global-DT issues, but it didn't. While I was up there I re aim the antenna using TVO as a guide, well TVO-DT is coming in at SN of 26 dbm according to my TV, but still no Global. The antenna is pointing south towards HC
I'm by the airport around Bank and Huntclub. http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d03f36c4f7d61cf

Here is my setup:
Handmedown Antenna
50' cable
Ground connector
25' into the house
surge protector on the powerbar
TV

Would a preamp help? Anyone in my area picking up Global?

No Global DTV 6 for me either. I'm right near Hurdman bus station on Riverside Drive. I built a double bi-quad antenna and had been using it for best part of the year at my place. I got all the OTA HD stations that transmit from CF and HC at between 80-90% so I figured when the switch-over occurred, that I wouldn't have any problems with stations transmitting from either CF or HC. I guess that was a bit naive of me to think.

Was NEVER able to pull in analog Channel 6 Global though; only rarely and it was a fight to get a somewhat static image to even remotely make out what the show was. That is not in my favour, I realize... lol. I think it's ultimately the location of my apartment; I have pretty much open way to HC but alot of obstruction to CF (yet it doesn't seem to affect much any of the other channels transmitting from CF)

I was going to wait until after September to do some experimenting to see if i can pull in the U.S. stations that TVFool says I could get if the conditions were right. Looks like I'll be starting that experimentation a bit early. I'm think a GH antenna with a proper pre-amp.

TVO is a beaut now though, no issues on that front. I hope the rest of the station conversions go that smoothly at the end of the month. And if we are comparing TVs too .. I have a Samsung as well :p ... I'm pretty sure I did the Press "6" then enter last night and still got nadda.

Even a friend of mine who lives closer to the CF transmitter than me and has a better height and open view was able to get analog Global channel 6 really clearly and now he gets nothing! (so I don't feel as bad)

I think Global's antenna may be lower on the totem pole and is obscured by all the downtown buildings. I'm on the 12th floor at Lees and cant really get a signal for Global. The multipath was awful for analog, and now with digital it is nearly impossible to get the signal. Im trying to develop a special amplifier/antenna combo that will correct this. Otherwise, I don't get Global. I have a better chance at getting Watertown channels

You'd think being on the 12th floor that you'd be high enough too. I once was able to get Global somewhat clearly using a custom diople I built, positioned JUST in the right spot. I think I'll start with that and see.... if there's a will, there's a way

@ baily;

I would have guessed that the double biquad would be a dead short on ch6, but 4nec2 says it's not significantly worse than a 4-bay UHF collinear antenna.

However, the pattern at 85 MHz looks like an hourglass, with minimum gain around the middle.

In anticipation of channel 13 going digital, perhaps hol_lands VHF-hi bow-tie with no reflector might be a good compromise for those limited to a single antenna.

http://imageevent.com/holl_ands/multibay

So Tweeter you have no yagi antenna - just the 4228 and you are able to pick up Global? I certainly can't with my 4228.
Hi Funkytown, yes, just my Channel Master CM 4228HD 8-bay HDTV/UHF Antenna. I suppose it's just my location?

The double bi-quad was the best overall reception and stability of everything I tried, which is why I stuck with it as long as I have. I think I'm going to revisit the bow-tie one you mentioned though. I only started to play around with it months back but I got busy so I just settled with the double bi-quad. Thank you for that link.

The Channel Master CM4228HD in my attic brings everything in clearly with high power except for channels 6 and 66-1. The antenna was not designed to bring in channels 2 to 6. In my bedroom I have a cheap $14 rabbit ears antenna that seems to pick up everything including channel 6. These new HDTV antennas don't seem to always work. A plain old antenna from years ago when there was no DTV does a better job (at least in my house). If I can figure out where to go to get a good HLSJ splitter, I'll take that into the attic and hook a cheap rabbit ear antenna along with the 4228 to see what happens. I'm guessing I'll get signal.

I don't think there are buildings between me and CF. My house is 8.1 km south of the tower in Aylmer. From what I gather, the issue seems to be 2 things - people are using antennas that don't pick up low VHF well - the signal strength since Global switched to DTV has been dropped dramatically.

To the guys with Samsungs, just hit 6 then enter on your remote and it will first check DTV channel 6 and then secondly analog channel 6. Both my Sammy's seem to work okay this way when I scan and then turn my rotor to add all my channels from the states and the other day when I was able to get Global only for a moment before it crapped out again. Yes there are firmware updates available on their website. In fact when I first brought our 46" home from the store it already had an update available LOL.

Best of luck to anyone who is still trying to RX Global DTV 6 in Ottawa and area. I gave up yesterday. I still have not even got a reply from Global on my e-mail from a couple days ago.
Thanks, bowhunter, for the info on the Sammy. I will try it tonight. I will also look into a firmware update.

Good luck with your reception!

John

Global was coming in for me at 100% yesterday and now it's entirely gone. :(

I was able to get my friend's DTV Global to show up and work tonight (the one who lives closer to CF than me) using a slightly modified antenna I cooked up while at work. Tried it on my setup and got nadda .. lol. I think I'm up the creek without a paddle on this.

I get Global on 6.1 on my Viewsonic, but my Samsung cannot see it.

Similarly, my Panasonic can see 6.1, the HDHomerun can see it when running their own application, but Windows 7 Media Center can't see it despite the fact that it uses the HDHomerun and 6.1 is my second-strongest signal!

At least I can watch it, but I'd like the option of recording it, too. I don't get why this is happening.