No he was Beth's boyfriend who she was dating for 3 months. Beth is the one who fainted and then tried to kill herself. She is still alive.

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Looks like it broke ratings records last night. A 4.7 18-49 rating, which is incredible. It's a series high, and I THINK it's a high for any drama this season, broadcast or cable.

They deserve to have a bigger budget next season, with those ratings. Anything less is just people being greedy.

Nah. AMC execs will think: "Last year we cut the budget and our ratings have soared. If we cut them some more, maybe our ratings will be even higher!";)

I am not familiar with the books so if everyone has the virus why did the 2 rowdies that Rick shot in the town bar a few episodes back didn't turn into zombies right away?

You only come back if there is no head trauma. The 2 rowdies in the bar were shot in the head and therefore couldn't be zombiefied.

^Rick was sure to make sure those 2 guys had headshot wounds. I think that was foreshadowing on the writers' part.

Ah I missed that, thank you. So obviously Rick already knew as jeffaustin90 says.

It's ridiculous watching characters appear every week with no speaking parts, especially t-dog who used to be a main character. You know it's just to save money.

Was Jimmy Hershel's son?

-Mike
I think these characters are there to serve the same purpose as assorted yeomen did in the original Star Trek series. They're there to be expendable.

I think these characters are there to serve the same purpose as assorted yeomen did in the original Star Trek series. They're there to be expendable.
What - zombie blood taking the place of the red shirts? :)

Being a usual non-fan of this genre, I have really enjoyed the two series and I like the suspense and character studies. The gore is manageable for me but I have to say if it increases much more next season I might have to reevaluate the show. I hope they keep it at about the current level as it seems the show is drawing in people who do not know the books but if it gets too gory and gross it might only appeal to the hardcore fans.

Has Rick turned into Shane? Sure sounded scary.

My quick points...

Still enjoying the show. But the writers have a way of dragging out the season in a boring way, but then giving you a bunch of excitement at the end to make you want to watch another season. I didn't feel much tension with them on the farm. The back and forth with Shayne was more soap operish than anything else.

Regarding the zombies, I was wondering for a while why splattered blood didn't do anything to anyone, so I checked Wikipedia during the season and I read about how anyone who dies becomes a zombie. Funny, I read it and just assumed it was something I missed from the first season. I didn't know it was something the characters still had to find out.

My worry now is that because of the comic books, so much will already be known about where this show is going. I prefer to feel like no one knows where a show is going.

Don't worry about the books and knowing where the show is going....the show is now very very loosely based on the books; which is annoying for fans of the books!

Notwithstanding what posters note above about the show and books being somewhat different we are about 20% of the way through the available comic series. I think we are at about issue 20 of 95 or so. This could be part of the reason why the show is at the pace that it is (ie - not wanting to catch-up too soon).

I didn't even know I was looking at a prison at the end. But then I read that it was, "just like the comics". And I wasn't sure what to think about that female character that seems to be like a superhero. Is this the direction they should go, etc.... But then I read that it was a character from the comics. One of the beauties of Lost was how no one ever knew where the story was going.

Anyway, I don't want to complain too much. I just do prefer if they move away from the comics. It's a zombie show. On tv. That's some pretty good material to work with.

Don't know anything about the story as in the comics etc... but I can tell you I almost fell out of my chair when the girl with the pet zombies showed up and that’s the way I like it ;)

I wonder how she trained them not to try and bite! ;)

-Mike

Not too enamored with The Walking Finale as most seem to be.

Comes down to not caring about hardly any of the characters. Which leads to having to sit through repetitive zombie scenes with everyone being expert marksmen making headshot after headshot. And how about Herschel with the bottomless shotgun?

When the promo material started showing the farm last season, word on the street led me to believe some good things were coming up in Season 2.

Very little did.

Now the prison is getting everyone excited all over again. If the show fails to deliver on the goods in that locale, and the characters remain as unlikable and DUMB as they have been this season, next season could be very well be my last for tuning in.

These made me do a spit take:

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Yeah you just reminded me of the perfect headshots, and Herschel's bottomless gun. I think last season I was under the impression this was a zombie show that was made to be "realistic". Regular people, at least. In general, they all have unlimited ammo. Enough to waste time at the practice range. And even when speeding around in a vehicle, the passenger can reach out and make every shot count in the head. I always say, stuff like that is lazy writing. It's just unnecessary. Those scenes could be re-written so easily to be more realistic.

I don't understand the comments about Herschel's "bottomless shotgun".

He had to stop and reload several times - about the only comment that might be appropriate is how he could have so many shotgun shells in his pockets - and about how the pockets never bulged despite of the huge number of shells he pulled out.

In fact, the zombies were getting closer and closer to Herschel because he had to stop and reload. That is why he had to run at the end.

I can understand the issue about perfect headshots - that is just very bad/lazy script writing. With a handgun at just moderate distance under ideal circumstances, a headshop is very difficult even for the best marksman. The way they were presented in the show was just plain stupid.

However, with that shotgun, getting hit anywhere would put most humans down. It should put a zombie down as well, with limited ability to get up due to damage. Might not kill them, but put them down for sure.

I echo many of the comments from the last few posts.

The perfect accuracy with the shotgun while riding shotgun and hanging out the window required too much suspension of disbelief. I was also extremely annoyed with the wife who one minute is advocating for murder and the next is mortified when her wishes come true (even when in self defense).

A great zombie book for those looking for a more "realistic" interpretation us world war z by max brooks IIRC. In one part he describes using fire to kill zombies. He suggests it's a bad thing since they feel no pain fire takes too long to incapacitate them. Zombies just become walking fireballs setting fire to everything in their path. It's all I could think of when the barn went up in flames.