: Global Network DTV Transition Status (closed)
2011-06-25, 11:57 AM
Surprise! New entry in Stampeder's mirror of the Industry Canada database (http://www.user.dccnet.com/jonleblanc/Canada_TV_Stations/DT.html) for Global TV (CIII-DT-27) in Peterborough:
Peterborough; AP; Ch. 27; CIII-DT-27; 440414 lat.; -780835 long.; 276.6 m HAAT; 140.3 m AGL; 275000 watts max.; 125000 watts avg.
Great news. Will this be the second CDN DTV station for my area in the less than exciting Canadian transition? This may be a result of my recent complaints to them about the current transmitter shutting off every hour for 5 minutes. TV fool also reflects the addition.
El Gran Chico
2011-06-25, 12:22 PM
I beleive Shaw's plan is to convert the non-mandatory markets by 2014.
Looks like 2016. From their transition website...
Global is in the process of converting all 86 of its over-the-air broadcast facility locations to digital and will be adding new markets/locations on an ongoing basis until all markets have been completed by no later than August 2016.
2011-07-01, 12:03 PM
Hi everybody. I am confused on what will happen to Ch 29. I am north of London and get Global CH 29 fairly well but still light snow with outdoor tower, original CM4228 and CM7775 amp. Does that mean 29 will stay analog or be gone completely?
El Gran Chico
2011-07-01, 10:43 PM
Heyjohn, Oil Springs is not considered London, so it will survive in analog past the transition. It will go digital sometime in next 5 years.
2011-07-02, 09:42 PM
Thanks for the info.
2011-07-04, 11:54 AM
I saw there tower on Friday, drove past it, and 15 mins away, is the other one for 51 in Alveston. I got pics of all of them 42, 51, and 29. I am not sure why they say its not close to London, when if they jacked up the power, they could get all of London. I get it here in Hyde park, pretty clear. BTW 51, is in Lamton County, not even in Middlesex county, how come they are considered London area and not 29
2011-07-04, 08:10 PM
I am assuming that it is because.
London is better served from both transmitters CKCO & CIII Kitchener. Also CKCO sarnia is not part of London.
Distances from my place. In SOHO. (SOuth of HOrton.)
CKCO Kitchener 42 miles
CKCO Sarnia 55 miles
CIII Kitchener 44 miles
CIII Sarnia 55 miles
CHCH Hamilton 75 miles
CHCH London 33 miles.
Read ya l8r,
2011-07-04, 09:59 PM
If Global Paris is better served, how come I do not get it. Emerald Boar, do some distances for me, These towers are not in Sarnia, do the distance on them, for hyde park, and find out for me (cause I am not sure) what the distance to my house, from those towers. Those towers, are not even in Sarnia, closer to me, but I am not sure. Can you check for me. BTW, I can not get Channel 6 (analog) but I can get 29. I wonder if I will get 6 in Digital
2011-07-05, 12:29 PM
As said before, it is all about projected contours not real world results. Presumably the Grade B contour for CIII-TV-29 (Sarnia-Oil Springs) does not reach London (or if it does only skirts the western most edge of it), where as the Grade B contour for CIII-TV (as shown in post #124 (http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=1182802&postcount=124)) covers all of London.
As for why you can receive CIII-TV-29 but not CIII-TV, it could be an obstruction from your location (contours do not take terrain into account) or more likely a result of the antenna(s) you are using. It is much easier to make a high gain UHF antenna than a high gain VHF antenna (especially for VHF-LO). Assuming you are using a deep fringe antenna for UHF, the closest equivalent antenna for channel 6 would be the out of production, almost 12'x6' Wade-Dehli 10Y6S (http://www.wade-antenna.com/Wade/cutchannel.pdf) and even then it may not have as much gain. Most combo antennas have more UHF gain than VHF-HI gain and more VHF-HI gain than VHF-LO gain.
2011-07-05, 12:46 PM
I am not sure why they say its not close to London,
It is close enough but only serves west London. Much of the city is overshadowed by the Byron hill which is a huge "edge." I calculated my antenna height required to get LOS to Oil Springs and it's 200'. As a comparison, the CH repeater is LOS, serves the same general area and is in approximately the same direction. As mentioned, the Paris transmitter serves London "on paper" but doesn't really serve Londoners due to distance and noise issues on channel 6. (Even Rogers had noise problems with it when they picked it up with a local tower.) When Paris goes to its low power digital assignment, it will be impossible to receive for most Londoners.
2011-07-05, 12:57 PM
These towers are not in Sarnia, do the distance on them, for hyde park, and find out for me (cause I am not sure) what the distance to my house, from those towers.
Your TVFool report will tell you how far the towers are. More importantly it will tell you how strong the signal is taking terrain into account (though not local obstructions like buildings and trees).
2011-07-05, 01:04 PM
You could also check the OTA Reception Reports for London (http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=115171) and area. That thread is much more appropriate for this type of discussion. This thread is meant for Global Network DTV Transition Status only.
2011-07-13, 09:39 PM
If Global Paris is better served, how come I do not get it?
Refresh my memory: Do you have a VHF-low antenna? If not, this could be the reason...
2011-07-17, 08:27 PM
Looks like CHFD the Global Channel in Thunder Bay Ontario is going Digital on Monday August 1st at 12:00 Noon.
2011-07-17, 08:32 PM
Nice! I hope they do the same in Ottawa/Gatineau.
2011-07-17, 09:12 PM
Thunder Bay Global is a private affiliate that is not owned by Shaw Communications.
2011-07-18, 03:24 AM
This is a re-post from the Alberta reception status thread; I just want to get the word out:
CISA-TV on channel 7 in Lethbridge Alberta will shut down analog for good come the morning of July 26th after the morning news.
CISA-DT will launch on RF 7 later that day as 7.1.
Translators in Burmis, Coleman, Brooks, Pincher Creek and Waterton will come back in analog on their same channel.
Independant translator K36DK on top of the Sweet Grass Hills will shut down analog and come back in digital on RF 36 later this summer, date undetermined.
2011-07-28, 09:30 AM
Does anyone know any other dates for flash-cutting have been released yet? In particular, I'd like to know about Paris, Ontario (CIII)
2011-07-28, 09:49 AM
Yesterday my DTVPal picked up a new substation 41.2-SD. We all know about 41.1-HD. When I tune to 41.2 my tuner locks up momentarily and there is only a blank screen. This also prevents me from channel surfing as it locks on 41.2
Looks like Global is experimenting. Hope it clears up soon.
2011-07-28, 12:30 PM
Yep, see the explanation and updates here:
Global's July 2011 PSIP Issues Explained - see Post #24 (http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=143032)