How easy would it be to pick up CKVR RF10 from Oakville with a C5 antenna? Anyone have any luck yet?

I'm picking up CFTO and CHCH without a problem with my C2 and C4, so CKVR RF10 is the only real reason I would need a VHF antenna. I don't want to waste any money on a hopeless endeavour though.

I'm still curious of the ERP CFTO is transmitting at. The talk was 11kw - 12kw, but
i think it's much more than that.

- i think posters should say whether it's an attic install or outdoor install. Seems
a lot of us attic installs and rabbit ears are getting CFTO fine while those within
the GTA with outdoor/preamps are having trouble ? ... signal overload ? ...again
curious of CFTOs actual tx'ing power.
- FYI, i'm in Brampton, using a CM7777 preamp, set to UHF only, a DB8 in the attic
and my reception strength has increased from 55% to 85% !
- as some users have stated, i'd try disconnecting the preamp as a first try if having
trouble

I'm still curious of the ERP CFTO is transmitting at. The talk was 11kw - 12kw, but
i think it's much more than that.


Why do you think that? VHF-High propagates really well, at much lower powers than UHF. It's only rabbit ears indoors that may have trouble receiving VHF.

I'm able to pick up CFTO-DT loud and clear in Milton, Ontario. I'm using a pair of stacked 4221 antennas in the attic with a kitztech preamp.

Signal strength: 98%
Signal quality: 88%

I'm pleasantly surprised, given that the CM4221 is primarily a UHF antenna.

Why do you think that? VHF-High propagates really well, at much lower powers than UHF. It's only rabbit ears indoors that may have trouble receiving VHF.
The reason i say that because i have UHF setup only. When CFTO was on RF40,
i was picking it up at 55%. Now it's on VHF RF9, and at a lower power, but my
strength has increased to 85% ...why ? Is it all because VHF can penetrate that
much better than UHF ?

The reason i say that because i have UHF setup only. When CFTO was on RF40,
i was picking it up at 55%. Now it's on VHF RF9, and at a lower power, but my
strength has increased to 85% ...why ? Is it all because VHF can penetrate that
much better than UHF ?

Yes. I see from your previous posts that your antenna is indoors.

Some factors specific to your situation:

- UHF penetrates building envelopes better than VHF.
- the 4221 antenna has negative gain for VHF Hi. You'd probably be better off with an FM T-dipole antenna

Because of the more favourable propagation characteristics of VHF vs. UHF, the received signal strength of channel 9 OUTDOORS in Brampton is actually higher (by about 7dB) than it was on channel 40.

But, as you can attest, your mileage has varied. :(

Glad to see CFTO is receivable.
I have a 4228, which is decent at VHF-HI, but I'm not pointed at TO, so was worried.
75% off the side? I'd say it's going to be fine. Especially since it was less than that on rf40 :)

Yes, mine is an attic install, for me at 85%, I'm very
happy as I thought I was going to lose CFTO going
down to VHF and lower power, but instead the
opposite happened. :)

CHWI 16 is still weak. Sadly unless they raise power it looks like I won't be able to receive it on a consistent basis.

In Wayne I would had thought CHWI-DT-26 on RF 26 would had been easier to pull than CHWI-DT on RF 16.

I'm still getting occasional blocks and small amounts of pixellation in CHWI 16, despite 100% signal and under 10 miles from the tower.

Early today it was a mess and could not be decoded. I hope this is not just here or we have some type of damaging interference. Does anyone else who gets this channel strong also see this? Just watch the channel for a few mins and there is noticeable random pixellation.

I could never get 26-1 to lock at all, even last night when 16-1 was pushing 70%. 26 got to about 30%, tops.

I always got a better analog signal from 16 than 26. 60 was barely there at all.


I'm still hoping they are not at full power, I'll let you know when I hear back from their engineer again.

I'm still curious of the ERP CFTO is transmitting at. The talk was 11kw - 12kw, but
i think it's much more than that.
Man it's a blow torch out here, best of all TO so far.

Hmmm 16-1 is coming in now at around 60%. This is interesting.

Let's not to get too excited just yet.... the VHF HI reception is untypically good today.
All my VHF stations are just booming in.

How will it be on a rainy day in November?

Getting CFTO-DT with a strength no greater than 75% (Sharp Aquos tv). My antenna is a Winegard PR-8800 and yes, it's meant for UHF, but analog CFTO used to come in almost crystal clear.

Certainly the drop in RF output doesn't help.

I'm still getting occasional blocks and small amounts of pixellation in CHWI 16, despite 100% signal and under 10 miles from the tower.

Early today it was a mess and could not be decoded. I hope this is not just here or we have some type of damaging interference. Does anyone else who gets this channel strong also see this? Just watch the channel for a few mins and there is noticeable random pixellation.
A follow up...

I just got to compare CHWI-16 locally to CFPL-10 digital from London which are the same network/programming and there are zero problems with CFPL. There definetely must be something up at CHWI-16 then. I do not know if anyone in Windsor has seen this random pixellation on CHWI-DT 26 either.

Gizmo 3141

I am also experiencing data errors on CFT0 that are showing up "as blocks on the image and interuptions in the audio stream as well." Through all this the signal quality stays 90-100%,

I have my DB8 aiming SE at Buffalo. This means that some higher roofs tops obstruct part of the antenna's line to the CN tower.
This problem occasionally pops up in other stations but consistently haunts CFTO (not a problem when it was broadcast on uhf 40)

DB-8, 28ft AGL , cm7777. 60 feet of rg6, ZAT 502 tuner.

Does anyone have any ideas on how problemsolve this?

A follow up...
I do not know if anyone in Windsor has seen this random pixellation on CHWI-DT 26 either.
We have the same pixelation problem with CHRO-DT-43 CTV2 in Ottawa.

I was prepared to get the eight-bay 4228, but they said the four-bay unit would be enough.

I have the 8 bay (4228) and WJBK ch 2.1 (RF 7) is one of my strongest signals.