: CTV & CTV2 DTV Transition Status (closed)
rob50312 2011-07-13, 05:41 PM There digital transmission has had repeated PSIP problems with near weekly returns to showing up as channel 40.1.It took several years to get a guide data going.Several emails about it with replys to just use our web site for guide info.All the Buffalo stations have had guide info.since 2006.For a flagship station they have many more problems OTA then the Buffalo outlets.Hope the flashcut works with little problems but I doubt it.
The present guidedata is useless whenever CTV shows a movie.Shows "CTV Movie"
Jase88 2011-07-13, 08:27 PM CFPL will be broadcasting 1080i just like all the other CTV owned stations will be.
I would tend to agree with you. However, Don Mumford would obviously be in a position to know for sure. And he's previously provided pwconsulting with accurate info regarding the planned CTV2 repeater near Niagara--much prior to this becoming public knowledge. I suppose we'll find out shortly....
Jase88 2011-07-13, 08:30 PM Agreed, it is frustrating. I noticed today that their data is in complete disarray.
El Gran Chico 2011-07-13, 09:45 PM There digital transmission has had repeated PSIP problems with near weekly returns to showing up as channel 40.1.It took several years to get a guide data going.Several emails about it with replys to just use our web site for guide info.All the Buffalo stations have had guide info.since 2006.For a flagship station they have many more problems OTA then the Buffalo outlets.Hope the flashcut works with little problems but I doubt it.
The present guidedata is useless whenever CTV shows a movie.Shows "CTV Movie"
That's not a CTV "problem" per se. The fact is there is NO Canadian standards for guide data, etc. while in the US, the FCC mandates accurate time, and 4 Event Information Tables (3 hours each). They could have a screwed up clock and 'CTV Event 123" as a program title if they wanted. The fact the clock is pretty good and there's something useful sometimes in the Program Title is something we should appreciate.
BTW, the 40.1 issue solves itself in 7 weeks when they revert to channel 9.
But you're right, they've had and continue to have PSIP issues fairly often which can get frustrating for the viewer.
El Gran Chico 2011-07-18, 11:34 PM According to a post on CKVR's Facebook page (posted today), the installation of equipment was to be done by Tuesday. They won't actually be switching on digital transmission until late August.
I phoned CKVR today. They confirmed the digital transmitter on RF10 will not be active until September 1. 44 more days of analog.
someguy23475 2011-07-25, 10:35 PM Any accurate maps of the CHWI digital pattern out there? The one I saw shows the Windsor repeater stopping dead at the Detroit River, which based on the antenna input makes no sense.
From RabbitEars:
CHWI-16: http://www.rabbitears.info/contour.php?appid=1283741&map=Y
CHWI-26: http://www.rabbitears.info/contour.php?appid=1283750&map=Y
Not sure which you wanted.
- Trip
someguy23475 2011-07-26, 09:04 PM I was curious of both, because the analog signals right now are roughly equal. It looks like I have no shot at 16, and a marginal shot at 26.
OTANUT 2011-07-26, 09:09 PM Where are you located at Someguy???
stampeder 2011-07-26, 10:10 PM Click on his user name and select Find More Posts By... to see his OTA Reception Results posts. Also please take discussion about his reception over to the Windsor thread and we can keep discussing the station's transition plans here.
rimor 2011-07-30, 02:21 PM Rogers, Channel Zero (CHCH), Shaw, and CBC have filed interventions in opposition to CTV's application.
Of note was amongst the issues cited by Channel Zero
43.While we note that Bell‟s application materials includes letters of intent from Channel Zero agreeing, in principal, to Bell‟s co-siting their rebroadcast transmitters on our existing tower in Stoney Creek, Ontario, this agreement was based on our understanding that the proposed transmitter would be used for Bell‟s Toronto based OTA, CFTO-TV, an existing competitor. We would never have agreed to the use of our tower to establish CKVR as a new regional competitor in the centre of our viewing area.
Among the other reasons for opposition:
A report commissioned by CTV from 2005, in which a consultant determined that adding another conventional station to the market would be detrimental to revenues of the local conventional stations. In 2005, a station wanted to start upon in the Niagara Falls area, showing old TV shows and movies, was opposed by the conventional stations and denied by the CRTC.
The additional transmitters would effectively result in CTV owning two networks covering Southern Ontario.
In the 2011 purchase of CTV by Bell, Bell was allowed to allocate $30 million of the tangible benefits
package to sustain local programming in the A-Channel markets,
including CKVR-TV Barrie. to sustain the A stations for 3 years.
... the station is also eligible for and receives significant funding from the Local Programming Improvement Fund (LPIF).
Approval of Bell Media’s applications would require an exception to the CRTC’s common
ownership policy... Under the policy set out in Broadcasting Public Notice CRTC 1999-97 and affirmed in Broadcasting Public Notice 2008-4, the CRTC will generally permit ownership of no more than one over-the-air television station in one language in a given market.
Rogers intervention:
https://services.crtc.gc.ca/pub/ListeInterventionList/Default-Defaut.aspx?en=2011-0942-1&dt=ar&lang=e
Channel Zero (CHCH), Shaw, and CBC inventions:
https://services.crtc.gc.ca/pub/ListeInterventionList/Default-Defaut.aspx?en=2011-0942-1&dt=i&lang=e
Bell's Response:
https://services.crtc.gc.ca/pub/ListeInterventionList/Default-Defaut.aspx?en=2011-0942-1&dt=r&lang=e
Jase88 2011-07-30, 04:21 PM I'm surprised that Channel Zero is opposed. Surely they knew the co-siting on their tower wasn't for CFTO rebroadcast. And they have their own rebroadcast towers around Ontario as well (as does Rogers).
Very odd response.
alebowgm 2011-07-30, 04:37 PM Its great in Bell's response. Basically says if they don't want our money, we won't give it to them.
rob50312 2011-07-30, 06:30 PM Not surprised with the interventions from all the competitors.Will CTV get what they want?
Jase88 2011-07-30, 06:35 PM Of course CTV will prevail.
I view the position of the respondents in opposition as hypocritical.
Humbar 2011-07-30, 07:25 PM I don't see any point to intervening against this application. I can't especially see how it affects Rogers.
downbeat 2011-08-01, 04:27 PM From http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2011/2011-463.htm
The Commission approves the application by Bell Media Inc. relating to the English-language conventional television programming undertaking CFQC-TV Saskatoon to amend the technical parameters of its transmitter CFQC-DT Saskatoon by increasing the maximum effective radiated power (ERP) from 10,000 to 13,000 watts, by increasing the average ERP from 5,600 to 13,000 watts, by decreasing the effective height of antenna above average terrain from 268.8 to 267.9 metres and by changing the antenna radiation pattern from directional to non-directional. The Commission did not receive any interventions in connection with this application.
Heyjohn 2011-08-02, 11:52 AM Hi. I am having a hard time finding out what will happen to Ch42 near London. Will it stay analog or be gone completely? Thanks.
octopod 2011-08-02, 12:24 PM From what I heard a few months ago when I sent an email to them they are going to be staying as analog, they never mentioned on what channel but their transition number is 27 and after the switch the CBC tower in Chatham is going to be on 42 so I would expect they will switch to the lower channel.
ScaryBob 2011-08-02, 12:31 PM From what I heard, CTV is refusing to do anything with 42 Oil Springs. They are not even planning to change channels. That has caused a panic at the CBC due to their channel 42 PT allocation in Chatham.
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