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daMaster
2009-02-12, 12:45 PM
With many of the U.S. stations down for the digital HD switch over, now is not the best time to be rescanning and mucking with your antenna direction to try and get Montreal stations :) Just saying :)
LOL, good point. Maybe I'll just wait it out then...

balm
2009-02-12, 12:49 PM
Does anyone here have any luck getting WNPI (Norwood, NY) channel# 18.1, 18.2 or CBOT (CBC Ottawa) channel # 25.1...


thanks

Kro
2009-02-13, 08:40 AM
Does anyone here have any luck getting WNPI (Norwood, NY) channel# 18.1, 18.2 or CBOT (CBC Ottawa) channel # 25.1...
Usualy I have some signal and sometime I get a lock on WNPI, Maybe we will really be able to lock on it when they will raise their ERP.

balm
2009-02-13, 09:48 AM
Kro;

how high is your antenna, do you use rotator...

when are they supposed to raise ERP

thanks

Kro
2009-02-13, 09:58 AM
how high is your antenna, do you use rotator...

when are they supposed to raise ERP
It's in the Attic so about 35 feets.
When? Most likely after June 12.

tvlurker
2009-02-13, 10:08 AM
Quote:
how high is your antenna, do you use rotator...

when are they supposed to raise ERP
It's in the Attic so about 35 feets.
When? Most likely after June 12.


That's just a guess -- very few of the North Country and Northern New England maximization applications before the FCC have been approved yet, except for WWNY 7 in Watertown.

balm
2009-02-13, 01:41 PM
Damaster:

I captured CBMT again this morning, strong to lock, what's going on, have they made changes to the transmission...CBFT is still nill!

Also got TQS...

balm
2009-02-23, 01:12 PM
Now that I have raised my DYI B4B I hope to get additional channels...

Just to update my digital reception:

1. get CBMT at no higher than 22 ft, with constant drop outs
2. lost TQS which I used to get no problem - are they gone!
3. get TQ (CIVM) no problem
4. get WVNY, WPTZ,WCAX, WETK, WFFF, WCFE, no problem
5. got WNPI at 33 ft, one night, lost it the next


does anyone know what other digital or soon to be digital channels I may have a slight chance of getting, say from the Ottawa, Hawksbury, Cornwall, and Saranac or other NY state areas...

It seemed I was very close to locking onto 25.1 (CBOT)...

I also heard about WCWF, anyone get this one...


thanks, nice to hope!

intravino
2009-02-23, 01:23 PM
WCWF will be hard to get with their present permit. I never say never but good luck.

Malone, Massena, Plattsburgh and Burlington are not even if the viewing area


Check out the 3rd page of this document:

http://www.fcc.gov/dtv/markets/maps_report1/Burlington_VT-Plattsburgh_NY.pdf


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCWF

balm
2009-02-23, 03:11 PM
intravino:


wow, not much hope there...

I might get other ones at my country place across the river from cornwall...

I do like the digital picture quality, but still seems to be hit and miss with the channels, also the choice is no where near cable yet or ever. oh well, can't complain too much, since it is free!

intravino
2009-02-23, 04:56 PM
The easiest to get are the PBS stations but their content is very similar.

I get half of the time WVTB that is 100 % the same as WETK.

Last summer I got also: WVER Analgoue and WVTA also Analogue and again the same as WETK.

I get sometimes like other forums members WNPI Norwwod, a bit different then the other PBS stations but very close.

WGMU-CA from Burlington is off air because the owners went bankrupt.

I used to get their repeater from St. Albans, W52CD but their programming was boring, South Park, Punk'ed and wrestling.


Intravino

balm
2009-02-23, 05:36 PM
Intravino:

I know, at this point in time, it`s more just the challenge and reward of catching another digital channel!

What about the 3 major US networks, and Montreal, do you get those, and with what


Also what about the Ottawa, Cornwall area ones...

intravino
2009-02-24, 09:18 AM
Balm:


CM 4228 pointed at Mt. Mansfield: WCAX, WFFF (cw also), WPTZ, WETK, WCFE, Sherbroorke stations.

10Y13s pointed at Mt. Mansfield with major tilt: SRC, CBC, Sherbrooke Stations, WVNY ( 40-60 % of the time ) I am North of their antenna so I only get 1kw.

CM 4228 and 10y13s amplified with CM 7777.


CM 4221 pointed at Mont-Royal: SRC-DT, CBC-DT, TQS-DT, Global 46, WCFE, WPTZ, TQ, TQS, Ch 29 with snow, Ch 62 with snow. I used to get WCAX but since the moved from CH 53 to CH 22, I lost their signal. I can't get TQ-DT because of Mont Saint-Bruno. I get SRC from Trois-Rivieres with snow.

Archer 4 elements VHF/UHF pointed at Mont-Royal (the UHF is canceled because of combiner): CFCF, TVA. SRC, CBC.

CM 4221 and archer amplified with 2 GE amps and a CM combiner.


I have a 40' tower.

I am too east to get Cornwall or Hawkesbury. I got channel 8 once in the summer.

I did not include the WETK sister station in St. Johnsbury because it is the same programs like WETK and Norwood PBS is very week at my location but when I get the signal it comes with the CM 4221 pointed at Montreal.


Intravino

STL
2009-02-24, 01:57 PM
Intravino:

Do you combine both of your systems onto one coax at any point? If so, do you use a A/B switch or a splitter in reverse (a combiner)? And the "CM combiner" for your CM 4221 and Archer yagi is a splitter in reverse (combiner)?

STL

balm
2009-02-24, 02:48 PM
thanks for the details, quite a set up you have...

I just bought a cheapo GE in-line preamp (10 db with 6 db noise) from addiso. installed it on my bow-tie, raised it to 28 ft. basically lost all my DT channels, except for CBS, and TQ...I was under the impression this should have helped the weaker, inconsistent channels....


Guess I have a lot more reading to do, which thread is the best for this...the preamp stuff is all over the place in this forum

STL
2009-02-24, 04:24 PM
balm:

A pre-amp will not always be helpful in a setup since it introduces noise, can can be prone to overload (where strong signals cause intermodulation on adjacent frequencies), and can overload your tuner. In your specific case, the 6 dB of NF introduced will hinder reception if your setup would otherwise have less than 6 dB of loss. As I recall you don't have splitters and just have a straight coax from your antenna to tuner.

The Mt. Royal analogs still have strong signal levels in the West Island. This may cause the amp overload. Not sure how directional your antenna beam is, but you can try aiming away to see if amplifier "hindrance" is a function of antenna bearing.

Low-noise amplifiers introduce 2-3 dB of noise. So your amplifier isn't low noise.

Also, pre-amps do not increase reception but help overcome loss to splits and spans of coax. So if you don't use a splitter or more than 50 ft of RG6, I don't think a pre-amp will help.

Here is a great thread on preamps (http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=42426&page=42).

You were complaining about pre-amp topics being spread across the forum: and here I am posting about pre-amps in a reception thread. ;) The moderator will most likely move this to the thread whose link is provided above.

STL

balm
2009-02-24, 05:48 PM
STL" I will continue in the thread you posted, thanks...

balm
2009-02-25, 11:24 AM
I finally gave up on CBMT...so I decided to try for CBOT HD (CBC Ottawa)...and I actually got it, need to be a clear day, and high antenna...even then it was intermittent...

balm
2009-03-01, 10:05 AM
West_Islanders,

I posted my TVFool results, west island montreal, post transition, digitals - am I correct in estimating a max., at best, total of 15 catchable channels from my area for now and ever (excluding the wasted sub-channels) !....

http://s638.photobucket.com/albums/uu110/stanicet/dt/?action=view&current=Radar-Digital2.png

STL
2009-03-01, 06:43 PM
am I correct in estimating a max., at best, total of 15 catchable channels from my area for now and ever

For now, yes.

For ever, no. As you probably know, TVA, CTV, Canal Savoir, Global, and E! will broadcast ATSC by mid-2011. So your channel count should increase to 20.

STL