: QC - West Island, Southwest QC, Cornwall and Eastern ON - OTA
2010-01-31, 07:37 PM
Here in Vaudreuil I have CM4228 adjustable clone pointed in two directions half towards US and half towards Montreal. From US I get everything without WVNY. From Montreal in digital I get only Tele Quebec, but except for CBFT (2) which is snowy, all others come in crystal clear in analog. All this 25 feet above ground without amplifier. I wanted to add an amplifier thinking I would get rest of Montreal channels in digital, and perhaps WVNY, but reading all the posts here I think it will be waste of time?
2010-01-31, 08:01 PM
does WPBS on 18 have Think Bright tv? What kind of antenna are you using?
I am in Vaudreuil-Dorion. I have eaglestar 8 bay adjustable from a store near you in Ile Perrot. The antenna is 25 feet above ground pointing itn two directions Mount Mansfield and Montreal. Except for WVNY I am getting all US stations from this direction.
Are you getting any digital channels from Montreal, except Tele Quebec which is come in here 100%.
2010-02-01, 08:51 AM
I'm at Vaudreuil-Dorion too but near Rigaud. I have a CM4228HD pointing between Mansfield and Montreal. Usualy, from US, I have 3.X, 5.X, 33.X and 57.X. I only have 17.1 from Montreal. But when température drop (like tonight probably) I have 22.1 and 44.X in extra from Mansfield and 6.1 and 35.1 from Montreal. All Montreal major analog station are really good 2, 6, 10, 12, 17, 35, 46. Channel 7, 8, 29 and 62 are snowy but watchable.
2010-02-01, 12:47 PM
first of all, I need make a correction, 18.(1,2,3) is WNPI (sometime logo is WPBS).
I check the signal again, I found the signal is effected by weather condition, now I miss 18.(1,2,3). I check my TV, the signal strength is between 20%-50%(jump).
I only get a french digital program 17.1 if I move my antenna from southern window to northern window.
I try to get CBC digital signal (6.1), but never!
I use almost same antenna 8bay. I found it in elec store in Ile perrot. eventually I bought it in ebay.
Living in pincourt
get steady signal:
get signal that depend on the antenna position and weather condition
never get signal
2010-02-07, 09:48 AM
Sorry if this has been asked and answered but I didn't see anything about.
I'm in the Dorion area and get 90's from most stations at Mt. Mansfield but for the past couple of months I get zero from WPTZ 5-1, nothing.
2010-02-08, 04:00 PM
I purchased an indoor RCA UHF Digital Antenna and was able to watch the Super Bowl from Ile Perrot.
I managed to get 10 Channels with the indoor antenna (WCAX 3-1 and 3-2, PBS 33-1, 33-2, 33-3, 33-4, another PBS 57-1, 57-2 & 57-3 and Tele-Quebec 17-1).
I am just wondering if there are others here from Ile Perrot or Notre Dame Ile Perrot (on top of the hill) who are either using an indoor or outdoor antenna.
Specifically I would like to know what equipment you are using and what channels you get.
Izzy, Dorion is not too far from me... what are you using to get WPTZ? Are you getting a lot of channels?
i have been losing the WVNY #13 signal almost every morning lately, then it comes in stronger as the morning progresses...anyone else notice this?
2010-02-14, 11:43 AM
Its been my experience that ABC 22 is always weakest in the early morning. And yes it gets stronger as the day progresses and is at its best in evening. Could be because of factories being closed in evenings and weekends when VHF signal is also better for me.
2010-02-14, 01:12 PM
I am also in Dorion. I am using folding 8 bay antenna which I picked up in Ile Perrot. The antenna is outside about 24 feet from the ground. It is folded, so half (4bays) point to Montreal, and half to Mount Mansfield. From Montreal I pick up only Tele Quebec in digital (100%) and from channel 6 up crystal clear in analog. From the states I get everything except ABC. WPTZ is the weakest, but comes in most of the time. Last night it was loosing signal, first time in few weeks. From the antenna the cable (RG6) run is long, but I am not using any amplifier. It would be nice to find a way to get WVNY (ABC). I think the rest of Montreal channels will come in digital when they will move the antennas to Mount Royal.
2010-02-14, 08:00 PM
Strange that WPTZ is the weakest. When I run a TVFool on my postal code in Ile Perrot it says that Fox WFFF would be weaker than WPTZ but that does not seem to be what I am hearing from people around here...
2010-02-16, 11:19 AM
Hey Panache, I'm in Ile-Perrot as well, just off Don-Quichotte above the hill (2nd lights after Metro).
I'm using an 8-bay winegard (PR-8800) about 30ft high facing the US, and a 2-bay channelmaster (4220) for the locals, pre-amped at the pole and amped in the house after ~70ft RG6.
As for the US, I get most of the same as everyone here, that is ... WCAX, WPTZ, WETK, WFFF, and WCFE. All very strong, with WFFF being the lowest at ~77-80% most of the time.
For the locals, I threw the 4220 up real quick at the start of winter, so not really peaked, and most channels come in good, but the lower channels have quite a bit of snow. I'm gonna try to peak it when the warmer weather comes in and if need be swap with a 4-bay to see if that does better. My locals are CBFT (poor - was good in the summer), CBMT, CFTM, CFCF, CIVM, CFTU, CFJP, CKMI, and CJNT.
Hope that helps :)
2010-02-16, 02:01 PM
mlaposta, what kind of pre-amp and amp are you using? I think that this is what I am missing. Which stations from Montreal do you get in digital? Did you ever get any signal from WVNY?
2010-02-16, 04:29 PM
I know it is cold out, but when you get a chance would it be possible to post a pic or two of your setup?
Did you buy your equipment from the guy on Grand Boulevard (near the Olco)?
I am also very close to you (after the Metro, near the Cramer).
30 ft ... and here I was with an indoor RCA antenna hoping to get more than CBS and PBS... hehe.
2010-02-17, 11:18 AM
I'm using a channel master 7777 pre-amp. I wanted to split the signal several times (split twice to two TVs for both analogue and digital), so I knew the strength wouldn't be enough. Before the pre-amp my WFFF was only coming in at 26-36%, and that was before splitting it, so the pre-amp made a HUGE difference for me.
I'm only getting 17.1 (tele-quebec) in digital from montreal, although I've read others are getting 2.1 and 6.1 in other areas. WVNY has been a no go for me unfortunately, the most I got was ~30% strength, but I wasn't able to lock the signal so couldn't view it. From what I've been told in these forums, my Winegard 8-bay is pretty useless for VHF-HI. I suspect if I were using the CM 4228 I'd at least get it some of the time.
I took a few quick pics, hope they give an idea of my setup:
The upper most antenna is my winegard pr-8800, beneath is the cm 4220, and beneath that is the cm 7777 pre-amp.
The 8800 is facing approximately south-east, and the 4220 north-east.
At the time I had my 8800 installed, I had someone do it for me as I was unable to get my hands on a ladder high enough for what I needed. I did however install the 4220 and pre-amp myself after learning that my neighbor had a 20-something foot ladder. I also had the installer get the pole and winegard for me (I would have purchased the cm 4228 but I digress).
2010-02-17, 01:30 PM
Just out of curiosity, your main pole (the green part) is it metallic ? It looks like a green fence pole, which could be a good idea.
And for WVNY, you could try a small VHF 13 antenna installed on top (or on the side of the mast) with a Uhf-Vhf-Splitter-Joiner (UVSJ), or connect your PR-8800 to the UHF port of the CM-7777 and the VHF antenna to the VHF port, insuring that you've set the internal switch of the pre-amp to split instead of combine for the signal.
2010-02-17, 02:38 PM
Hey, thanks for the pics.
I was trying to see how you grounded everything, as I don't see a Hydro meter anywhwere near your set-up...
I see some folks around here have the antenna set-up right on their roof (no pole straight to the ground) using an old satellite dish mast. I would prefer this, but wonder if there is any difference with reception.
My only sticking point is ABC WVNY. If I cannot get this channel, than there is no point, since I would have to subscribe to cable or sat to get ABC anyway. I wonder if anybody in Ile Perrot or Dorion area can get strong enough signal for WVNY or if this is simply impossible due to the distance from the main tower?
Could you give me an idea of how much the equipment and installation cost you?
2010-02-17, 02:44 PM
Panache70, luckily everything you will ever need to know about grounding your OTA gear is in this thread:
Grounding Info & Standards: OTA/Dish/CATV/Telecom (http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=62265)
2010-02-17, 02:44 PM
I’m getting all the US channels, including ABC, with a CM 4228HD installed in the attic and a GE amplifier in the house. The antenna was 100CAD , the amplify. 20CAD.
2010-02-17, 04:01 PM
Vasiler, is there a big difference with GE amplifier? It was sold out at CT, so I picked up Rocoton 10db 4 way at Maxi for $7 on liquidation. The same one at FS is $49.99. It improved signal on Samsung tv by two bars on all channels. Lately NBC was only one bar, so it made it three which is solid signal. $7 was a good price, but I would not pay more than $10 for this Rocoton, because it is not too impressive.
2010-02-17, 05:03 PM
No big difference, maybe 10%. It works without it, too.