2009-09-23, 08:10 PM
thank you for the replies, i will read more on how to build a antenna tomorrow,
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2009-09-23, 08:10 PM
thank you for the replies, i will read more on how to build a antenna tomorrow,
2009-09-23, 10:53 PM
You can also check out the OTA: Quebec Parts, Sales, Service, Installers (http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=51078) thread to find a local shop near you that can help you get set-up.
2009-09-25, 11:18 AM
i live in hudson, que, nearest intersection would be harwood and cameron,
could someone recomend a antenna for this location? i made one from wood and coat hangers, which works for a couple of channels in hd, mainly wcax and civm hd, if i move it arround and rescan i loose those and get 57-1. i know my coax is too long approx 100ft, is there an antenna that i could buy that would get more channels? also would i need some type of signal amplifier?
Hudson,Que, intersection of Harwood and Cameron
2009-09-25, 02:55 PM
3wood, 100 feet, whoa I'm surprise you get CBS :)
You need a good quality amplifier, Channel Master or PCT is fine:
If you go the ebay route for the PCT ones, make sure it comes with the power adapter!
2009-09-25, 03:00 PM
Check out the following items.
- Channel Master 4228HD antenna
- Antenna Direct DB8 antenna
- Channel Master CM3410 or CM3412 amps/splitters.
Also drop by www.dtv.gov
goto the Reception Maps link, and there enter you postal code or your full address.
Before you spend any money, do your homework.
2009-09-27, 11:12 AM
i wouldth like to purchase a antenna, rotor if needed, signal booster, right now i'm using a antenna that was used on a trailer, i can shorten about 20ft off the cable, this morning i scanned the channels in, and got 11 anologue, and 11 digital, but i would imagine this is wheather related, raining and low cloud
2009-09-30, 08:46 PM
I'm living in Vaudreuil-Dorion near you (Harwood / Séguin). I have a Channel Master 4228HD with Channel Master preamp 7777. My antenna is around 35' hight but surranded by a lot of trees much higher then it. Since I want Montréal and US stations, the antenna pointing between Montréal and Mont-Mansfield. Till Montréal station didn't transmit from Mont-Royal, you won't receive nothing except Télé-Québec (CIVM 17.1). With my setup I got those digital stations:
WPTZ (5.1) depending on weather
WETK (33.1) depending on weather
WCFE (57.1) depending on weather
2009-10-01, 10:06 AM
Passepoil you are not far from me, with the same tree problem, yesterday i cut about 20ft off my coax and installed a winegard ap-8700 preamp, made a big difference, i went to buy the 7777 at montcalm and they recommended the 8700 over the 7777 for this area, something to do with lower noise? right now i'm getting
fox44.1,44.2 cbs3.1,3.2, civm17.1, 33.1,33.2,33.3,33.4 plus a bunch of analogue with no problems, this is with an old trailer antenna pointed roughly southeast, i can get 5.1,5.2, and 22 something if i rotate the antenna, but i loose some of the others, if i have time today, i,m going to try build a better antenna using one of the designs here in the forums, i want to buy a 4228hd, but only if i can get more channels, so i will try a home built first.
2009-10-01, 12:58 PM
3wood... I'm impress that you catch fox. Did you have stable reception (%)?
I have arround 65' between antenna/preamp and the power supply. This power supply is in the attic. Right after the power supply I put a amplified spitter. On of the drop is for the main TV from witch I have those result. This drop have arround 60'. I will try tonight to put a decoder on a shorter drop to see if a have better results.
2009-10-01, 01:13 PM
Passepoil, i can't give %, my tv doesn't have a signal meter, or i can,t find it in the menu's, it's a soyo, sitting here with fox44 on, picture and audio stable, no pixaltion .
2009-10-23, 05:30 PM
Well I replaced my 5y13 with a 10y13 and now ABC comes in no problem...I've had my wofe check all day, and reception ahas been fine.
All that's left now is to clean up my wiring(length+quality) to guarantee trouble free reception of all available Digital channels in the Montreal area.
All this still from my attic.
2009-10-24, 12:56 PM
Hi all, been browsing the OTA forums for a while and picking up lots of info!
Finally got my setup mostly done and wanted to share my results.
I had a Winegard 8800 installed (wanted the CM4228 but oh well) by an installer. It's sitting somewhere between 30 to 35 ft high. I bought 2 Winegard 1010 receivers to get HD to my TVs, but after splitting the signal I was losing Fox and CW, and the local Analogue stations .. forget it!
So after doing more reading here, I decided to buy a cm7777 amp, and the results are much much better :)
Below are my results for the Digital channels I get after installing the 7777 and splitting the signal twice at two TVs:
3.1, 3.2 - 100%
5.1, 5.2 - 96-99%
17.1 - 94-100%
33.1, 33.2, 33.3, 33.4 - 97-100%
44.1, 44.2 - 76-80%
57.1, 57.2, 57.3 - 97-100%
I also decided to take a shot at installing a cm4220 that I got free from a friend, aimed towards the local stations, and joining it to the Winegard 8800 with a splitter (despite all the warnings about how that won't work). Luckily the two antennas don't seem to be affecting each others channels (tested them individually first), but rather seem to be helping some of the analogue channels for better reception (versus the individual reception I was getting).
So my final setup is the hd8800 facing the US stations, and the 4220 facing the Montreal stations.
My only worry at this point is CBS, which never falls below 100%. So hope that isn't a big concern.
Just wanted to thank all for the great questions and answers here, it's been a lot of learning but definitely worth it! :)
2009-10-24, 01:03 PM
very impressive results, im surprised the 8800 is doing that well on real #43 (#44 fox) :eek:, its supposed to be a real dog above #30
I suspect in ile-perreault you are clear LOS, no obstacle around at all!
where did you get that 8800...
2009-10-24, 03:59 PM
Well, I can thank the channel master 7777 for that!
Before adding in the 7777, Fox and CW were coming in at 36% max - with antenna direct to TV (i.e no splitter). After I had split it, it dropped to ~20%.
So the 7777 got it up to ~95% signal before I split it.
I was really happy with the results, wasn't expecting that much increase! :p
Like I mentioned, I had really wanted the 4228 either orig or HD, as it seemed to be the strongest contender.
It was only after it was installed that I realized the installer gave me the Winegard. I think he gets his stuff from Raybel.
All in all, I'm pretty happy with the results.
Now if only I could get 22.1!
2009-10-24, 04:18 PM
I think he gets his stuff from Raybel.
A lot of the installers get their stuff from Raybel. Raybel now sells Winegard since Delhi/Wade stopped their consumer products.
2009-10-29, 12:55 AM
Hey I've been reading about this OTA stuff for a few days, what's the odds of picking up US signals like PBS ABC NBC and CBS, FOX from the West Island? and How strong? Also CBC too. Antenna of choice will probably be a CHannel Master 4228HD. I live exactly in Kirkland, no buildings blocking my way.
2009-11-02, 12:45 PM
Hello everyone! This is my first post but I have been reading here for several weeks.
Anyway, I thought I would post my first reception results from Yesterday.
I have a VHF/UHF combo antenna on a 35 ft mast but I don't know the brand. It came with the house when I bought it several years ago. There was a pre-amp at the antenna with no numbers or brand name and I added a channel Master power supply (found at the dump) to get it working! Antenna rotor is there but non-operational. I have a Zenith STB.
Yesterday, when first hooking up the pre-amp power supply I got the following digital channels with the antenna aimed at Mt. Mansfield:
3.1, 3.2 - WCAX - clear with no pixalation - signal about 60%
5.1, 5.2 - WPTZ - clear with no pixalation - signal about 70%
18.1, 18.2, 18.3 - WWNI - clear - signal about 80%
22.1, 22.2 - WVNY - very pixalated - signal intermittant between 30 and 55%
44.1, 44.2 - WFFF - very pixalated - signal intermittant between 30 and 55%
57.1, 57.2, 57.3 - WCFE - clear - signal at about 90%
Now the funny thing is in the evening - without any changes at all to the setup, position or weather - I started getting WVNY and WFFF very clear as well as CVMI (17.1) but completely lost WCAX. Does anyone have any thoughts as to why this happened?
Sorry about the long first post!
2009-11-02, 02:25 PM
Now the funny thing is in the evening - without any changes at all to the setup, position or weather - I started getting WVNY and WFFF very clear as well as CVMI (17.1) but completely lost WCAX. Does anyone have any thoughts as to why this happened?"It's channel 22 ( CBOFT ) coming from Ottawa ...sometimes, in the evening, it's interferring with WCAX, also on 22.....i'm experiencing drops with WCAX when i have some signals coming from Ottawa...
2009-11-03, 10:34 AM
Last night, I discovered that when WFFF (44) was clear, I couldn't get a lock on WCAX (3) at all. When WFFF would begin to pixalate and drop, then WCAX would clear up. There were waves back and forth lasting about 5 minutes each where I could get one of those two channels clearly but never both at the same time.
Seems weird to me.
Is there anyway to reduce the interference from CBOFT in Ottawa? Also, do you think a 'top of the line' pre-amp would improve the my results beyond what I've got so far or is this the best I could expect given my location?
2009-11-03, 11:24 AM
thewongster: Welcome to the forums, if you go back, you'll see many West Islanders catching many U.S. channels (ABC being the exception, hard to catch), although CBC usually isn't one of them since Mount Royal is blocking a large portion of the West Island.
Gerrit77: Without changing the antenna, not likely. If you notice the newer antennas such as Channel Master or Antenna's direct, they have this huge metal mesh behind the antenna...this is to prevent reflectiosn of signals or signals from coming from other directions thare are on the same channel.
In your case, it might help a little since WCAX isn't the same direction of CBOFT, but of course that means a $90ish new antenna :)