Hello,

Does anyone know if any provider(Shaw, Bell, etc etc) will be showing the 2010 SuperBowl LIVE with US commercials intact? (i.e. the US Feed not 'overwritten' with Canadian commercials and other crap?)

Not that interested in the US commercials per say, just completely P.O. last year with the weird 'cut-ins' from commercials and the brain-dead 'additional commentary' from some idiot instead of the pros actually at the SuperBowl...

Cheers!:D

CaptainCanuck

PS
Yes, I am aware of sim-sub rules... just wondering if there is any workarounds due to all the HD, US, etc content now available??

ADMIN NOTE

From last year

Broadcasting Decision CRTC 2008-358 - Regarding Simsub of Super Bowl (http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?p=864659)

Nothing has changed

Shaw Direct will be sim-sub free (in HD) if you don't live in Toronto.

Shaw Direct will be sim-sub free (in HD) if you don't live in Toronto.
Really??

Any info on which station/channel that would be?? Any chance you have that from them directly in some sort of 'hard copy' or email? :-)

When I talked to them today via telephone they said "No, substitution would be in effect." !?!?

Cheers!!

PS: I am located in Vancouver so this sounds GREAT if true! :-D

Try the US Time Shift channel

One other option that might be worth considering would be to put up an antenna to pick up the Super Bowl directly from the CBS affiliate in the nearest bordering US city. Since you live an Vancouver you may have luck getting the Super Bowl over the air from KIRO, the CBS affiliate in Seattle. The OTA Forum has tons of great information on this and helped me get started. I live in Toronto and OTA is the only legal way to watch the US super bowl commercials where I live.

Try the US Time Shift channel

You think that's going to help? It's live event so it begins at same time in all time zones. What are rules for simsub in that case?

I am trying out some OTA antennae this weekend to see if I can get CBS from Seattle... *fingers crossed that big frickin fir tree is NOT in the way* :cool:

I was trying to confirm 100% that 'xyz provider' will be offering the SuperBowl 'sim-sub free' and then I would sign-up with them asap! Hence my request from -rgto- for a contact person, advertisement, email anything I can 'hang my hat on' for a sim-sub free SuperBowl. :D

Cheers!

You think that's going to help? It's live event so it begins at same time in all time zones. What are rules for simsub in that case?
Shaw Direct told me this would not work?

Did I get a 'tard' CS? Or will that work?

753951: Last year, on Shaw and the previous years, the Time Shift channels did not get simsubbed, just the SD channel.

753951: Last year, on Shaw and the previous years, the Time Shift channels did not get simsubbed, just the SD channel.
Was this via Shaw or Shaw Direct? (I had called Shaw Direct when they told me no...)

Cheers!

on Shaw

on Shaw
Any advice who I would talk to? (department, etc)

The CSA I just spoke with said no as well... thought they did sound rather... how shall I say this... dumb!? :)

Thanks!

DSGamby's right as to previous years, Shaw did not simsub the time-shifted channels.

CTV filed a complaint with the CRTC against Shaw. Shaw was let off the hook in terms of any penalty for previous "failures" to simsub the Super Bowl on the time shifted channels but was ordered to do so in the future. Shaw agreed to comply with the order.

In other words, BDU's in Canada have been ordered to simsub time shifted channels as well. CTV's grip on this thing is complete.

CaptainCanuck: I have no clue as all I did was switch to the Time Shifted Channel but as JohnnyCanuck said, it is no more.

CaptainCanuck, I don't have anything in hard copy that it will be sim-sub free. But in previous years, Shaw Direct has shown the Super Bowl without sim-subs. Shaw Direct has CTV HD from Toronto and so, only Toronto was forced to watch sim-sub commercials. I'm expecting this year will be the same - fingers crossed.

I should also say though that SD (Standard Definition) of the Super Bowl will be/has been in previous years sim-subbed on Shaw Direct. This is because I live in Ottawa and there is a CTV Ottawa station broadcast available in my area. So, I should clarify that only HD will be sim-sub free for people outside Toronto. Did you specify SD/HD when you talked to the CSR?

DSGamby's right as to previous years, Shaw did not simsub the time-shifted channels.

CTV filed a complaint with the CRTC against Shaw. Shaw was let off the hook in terms of any penalty for previous "failures" to simsub the Super Bowl on the time shifted channels but was ordered to do so in the future. Shaw agreed to comply with the order.

In other words, BDU's in Canada have been ordered to simsub time shifted channels as well. CTV's grip on this thing is complete.
Aw crap! :-L

Thanks for the info though! Didn't want to buy another setup if it wasn't going to work... **fingers crossed my OTA antennae can see KIRO in Seattle this weekend** :D

Thanks DSgamby, rgto, et al for your input!! :)

Aw crap! :-L

Thanks for the info though! Didn't want to buy another setup if it wasn't going to work... **fingers crossed my OTA antennae can see KIRO in Seattle this weekend** :D

Thanks DSgamby, rgto, et al for your input!! :)
If you're not familiar with OTA, go to tvfool.com, put in your address and you can get a report, with exact magnet direction to point your antenna. You can post a link to your results, in the OTA forum for your area, so we can tell you what equipment you need to DTV OTA.

Any Shaw Direct customers in GVA or Calgary here? I'd think that if Shaw were forced to simsub the Superbowl (by replacing CBS E HD and CBS W HD with CTV Toronto HD for those in GVA and Calgary), they would also be forced to do the same for the NFL playoffs?

If i had to bet I'd say no HD superbowl simsub (outside of Toronto) this year on Shaw Direct, just like last year.

EDIT:
Here's a link that indicates Shaw Direct HD viewers outside of the GTA will likely be able to watch the superbowl on CBS this year:
http://blog.fagstein.com/2009/01/16/crtc-roundup-super-bowl/

OTA is the way to go if you have any option at all.

Buy and return a decent antenna if you have to. I keep meaning to mount mine on the roof but every Feb it comes out, gets bolted to a step ladder facing south in my living room and the wife lives with a coax across the floor for a day.

Benefit is also the best possible pic you are going to get. Doing A/B on OTA vs BEV last year was NO comparison. OTA was a far better pic. Best part was going OTA into the PVR so we could replay the commercials and then catch up with the game after we got tired of them.