: OTA On-Screen & Third Party Electronic Program Guides
2011-11-21, 12:58 PM
I did... I provided an extensive list of all the broadcast channels in the area, their PSPID numbers, postal codes, the nearest US postal code etc. They replied "It should work, let us know if it still doesn't."
I did. Plus I offered to send them all the TV's TVGO debug info which i found buried under several levels of menus and submenus.
Still no reply after 14 days. Gotta love these guys, but it's pretty obvious they mostly care about the US market.
2012-01-05, 02:53 AM
I'm trying to figure out why I don't get program guides for CBC or Global but I do for CTV.
2012-01-05, 03:13 AM
Short answer: CTV is currently the only national Canadian broadcaster to provide such data. The others simply haven't turned this service on yet.
2012-01-05, 02:33 PM
Are other broadcasters required to?
2012-01-05, 02:50 PM
No such requirements exist in Canada.
2012-01-05, 05:43 PM
Ok, I won't hold my breath.
2012-01-05, 06:23 PM
Rogers CITY and OMNI stations also provide guide data in their PSIP.
Global is "about to" but haven't worked out the licensing issues yet.
SRC and CBC used to, and may do it again "sometime soon".
CTS does, but their clock is wrong, so that causes problems for some Set Top Boxes
as downbeat noted, both CTV and CTV2 do provide program data.
2012-01-24, 12:41 PM
I am looking to buy a new TV, for OTA in Ontario.
Are there any TV manufacturers that have a built-in TV channel guide?
And are some better than others?
2012-01-24, 01:15 PM
Actually someone just recently posted a similar question on the French side of the forum
I believe the outcome was that the best built-in TV program guide was from Samsung TVs as per the average joe review here (http://average-joe-consumer-product-reviews.blogspot.com/2011/10/samsung-tvs-deliver-for-over-air-dtv.html)
2012-01-24, 01:48 PM
BigSplash, I've merged your thread with an existing thread on the topic.
Note that there are basically two sources for guide data on TV's which support it: TVGOS (TV Guide On Screen), and PSIP (encoded EPG in channel's data stream). And some TV's--from what I hear--may soon (or already) be capable of connecting to the Internet for guide data.
TV's with EPG capability get their data from either one or both of the above sources.
TVGOS is generally preferred as a data source, as it provides more comprehensive data, and up to a week of guide info. PSIP data duration varies, but you generally get about 12 to 24 hours of data.
For TVGOS to work, you must be able to receive a local TVGOS host station. You can check your locale here (http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php?request=tvgos) (Canadian listings at bottom) to find your nearest host station. In Bolton, you'll likely get TVGOS data from CFTO Toronto (CTV, RF 9).
2012-01-24, 01:58 PM
Thanks for the helpful info!
2012-02-20, 09:46 AM
After the latest software update on my Sony EX620, it appears that the Rovi Guide software was updated. It now presents a "Reset" feature and a lot more user-control options.
The guide however still presents the same bug as before: the OTA channel guide setup simply does NOT work. Same problem as before: the data is downloaded then the message "The guide cannot complete setup" appears when using a Canadian postal code. It works for a US postal code however (but does not display data for CDN stations).
Anyways, one of the new options added allows the guide data to be downloaded over the air instead. This is completely new and was not present in the earlier version. I am trying to see whether this option will work. If it does, I will be very happy. Let's see.
2012-02-20, 08:09 PM
The closest TVGOS over-the-air host station is CFCF-DT. You must be able to receive this station in order to capture EPG data from TVGOS for your locale.
2012-02-20, 08:25 PM
Speaking of TV Guides.. A few weeks ago I sent an email request to ZAP2IT (http://www.zap2it.com),
asking if they could update the Channel Lineups in some Buffalo area ZIP Codes to reflect all of the Toronto Stations. Since the Canadian DTV Transistion was completed in August, it was in need of updating. Most of the channels that were available were still following the old Analog naming conventions and weren't listing HD Content when available, etc.
I just checked up on it and see that it looks much better now. All the Toronto stations are there now, with the -DT Callsigns, etc.
2012-02-23, 12:14 PM
Yes I have a perfect reception of CFCF (100% signal strength & quality). Anyways, it's still a no-go. After days of playing with the new settings, it still won't load any data, over the air or over the internet for my postal code. Sigh. I really wonder what the bug is.
Rovi support is mostly useless, they keep saying that I have to reset the guide and retry, although I have reset it just about 500 times already.
So back to using a US zipcode and receiving data for US stations only.
2012-03-24, 06:22 PM
CBC was fixed a few months ago but Global in Toronto doesn't show EPG nor PSIP data on my SONY TV, but shows on my DTVpal DVR. Both units are set at a Buffalo ZIP code so pick up the TV Guide broadcast from Buffalo PBS station.
Should I set my SONY TV to a Toronto postal code for Global TV Guide info to come from CTV Toronto? I hesitate only because I don't want other info or settings to change.
2012-03-24, 10:06 PM
My Sony Bravia is not TVGOS-capable, and displays the current PSIP EPG data for Global Toronto and Paris perfectly.
I would try changing your Sony's settings to your Canadian postal code. You can always change it back if results are not satisfactory.
2012-09-28, 01:22 PM
So, now that I have ditched cable and got my OTA going well, how could I get a decent program guide ? I guess I miss my guide on my Bell/Rogers PVR...
Is there a web site, with Canadian stations, that I could register with to receive a Daily Program Guide, for only the station I receiver OTA ?
Ideally a daily email, sent to my smartphone or computer, so I could know what will be on tonight...
Right I read the Toronto Star, but that is so 20th century...;)
2012-09-28, 01:39 PM
zap2it.com enter 14174 as the zipcode and you will see Canadian and US listings.
2012-09-28, 01:49 PM
I use area code L4A 5E7 with zap2it which lists stations from Toronto, Hamilton, Buffalo, Rochester, CKCO, CKVR, CHEX.