: OTA On-Screen & Third Party Electronic Program Guides
2011-08-19, 03:01 PM
Just trying to get this straight, so you are using the TVGOS function of your CM-7000?
Connecting to an analog TV with the TVGOS feature using the TVGOS cable to connect the two?
Yes, I do use this functionality with my CM7000Pal. I do not pass through the data to a TV, as my HD does not have TVGOS. It works great for Buffalo area stations, but not Toronto or Hamilton stations, as TVGOS has a host station in Toronto for those.
I use ZIP 14201. Though Youngstown, NY (14174) has been recommended to me, as it's as close as you can get to Toronto as possible and still be in the US.
My understanding is that the station carrying the TVGOS signal only carries data for what's available in that viewing area.
2011-08-19, 03:27 PM
I gotcha, thanks...
I just double checked to confirm, I use zip code 14092 which I think is Lewiston, NY
for Zap2it. Of course I don't think that has any Kitchener stations in it though.
I was logging PID of WNED that carries TVGOS earlier today, it's part of the first / HD Program, all hex jibberish obviously but ya see signs of html pages, pictures and what not in the data, probably from advertising.
2011-08-19, 03:29 PM
So you're saying TVGOS from WNED is back up?
2011-08-19, 03:32 PM
I can see the data in it's PID, so yeah I would think so. Of course I have no way to
decode it to check it for content. Other than recognising that there are some .jpgs, .html in there, so on...
2011-08-19, 03:35 PM
Hmmm. I've been driving those poor folks at WNED crazy with my inquiries on this issue...so hopefully this is good news!
2011-08-19, 03:44 PM
LOL, too funny...
I just checked the timestamp of the file I saved, was ~ 11:25 AM.
it's PID is 0x111, or 273 decimal in case you can ever look at it with a PC card.
tell ur wife to get ya a cheap one for xmas sometime...LOL
2011-08-19, 03:49 PM
El Gran Chico: Odd that Echostar owns the code. The firmware definitely appears very similar to that of the Bell 9241 DVR--also manufactured by Scientific Atlanta. So they buy the hardware from SA, and license the firmware from Echostar?
Either way, I'm sure they sell enough of these devices in Canada and other ATSC-adopted nations to warrant updating their code.
2011-08-19, 03:57 PM
Echostar Owns Dish Network. Echostar designs & manufactures the receivers for Dish Network and by extension Bell since they use the same hardware, etc. So makes sense to me that they own the firmware rights to the DTV Pal, since they designed and wrote the code that goes in it. They might have had to license some software from The TVGOS folks though to get the TVGOS working. How I would interpret anyhow..
2011-08-21, 09:21 PM
TVGOS appears to be working again… Again. :)
2011-08-22, 10:52 AM
Yep OTA TVGOS on zip 14201 appears to be working for me as well.
2011-08-22, 09:52 PM
Uh oh, Not again.
I have no TVGOS listings past 3AM. :(
2011-08-23, 11:45 PM
I now have guide data for one full week on most Buffalo stations. Good to see!
I am about to join in the OTA community in the next week or so. I am debating what equipment I should get.
My 'problem' is I have an older HDTV that has a NTSC tuner it. My TV does have HDMI(1080i). To get a good HD tuner, it will cost ~$150. However, if I get a new TV in the future, that piece of equipment will be useless to me. So, I was thinking about getting a CM7000PAL DVR. I can still use that if I decide to get a new TV in the future.
Someone I work with mentioned the guide might not work in Ottawa. By not work, I mean it will not have a source to download the data from.
Is anyone in the ottawa area using a CM7000 and can answer this question for me?
Someone I work with mentioned the guide might not work in Ottawa. By not work, I mean it will not have a source to download the data from.That DVR tries to use TVGOS (http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php?request=tvgos) as primary EPG (about 1 week worth); and if not available, then PSIP EPG info from each channel (about 12 hours worth). If you can tune in american stations like WCFE (Mountain Lake PBS), then you may have access to TVGOS data.
Otherwise, at this time, only some stations (CBC, TVO, etc.) in Ottawa carry PSIP EPG data (e.g.: CityTV and OMNIs don't yet) , but the hope is that all will eventually, some day, carry PSIP EPG program data...
2011-09-03, 12:38 PM
I live in Montreal and get about 20 digital channels OTA right now. I bought the Sony EX620 TV mainly because it advertised the "Electronic TV Guide" on the box.
However after setting it up with my postal code I realized that the TV guide wasn't available for any channels. Later I tried inputting the Burlington US post code and that brought up the TV guide for all the US channels, but none for the Canadian channels. This sort of sucks cause none of the Canadian stations offer program information. CBC used to do it, but now all you get is "CBMT Montreal English HD, Event ###" which is not really helpful.
On the Rovi website they say they don't support Canada (so why do they sell Rovi enabled units here then?)
Is there any way to get the guide to work for the Canadian channels?
Also is there any way to see the signal strength on the EX620?
2011-09-05, 10:08 AM
This is something I've wrestled with on my Sony NX810 since the day I bought it back in February 2011.
And honestly, I fully recognize that, for me, it's just a gimmick and I would probably never use it.
But the fact that it isn't working just bugs me so much.
Has anyone in S. Ontario had luck getting the TVGOS to work with their stand-alone OTA set-up?
With Canadian channel data?
With no DVR, PVR or other boxes involved?
Strictly throught the TV tuner?
2011-09-05, 01:32 PM
I think the whole feature is really badly implemented. The TV could actually compile the data into a table that's aired together with the program just like my cheap digital converter box does, but instead the Sony TV either gets it all from the internet (which doesn't support Canada) or ignores the data sent over the air (just using it to display the current program).
On the other hand I have found the signal meter, buried under the Product Support menu. It's actually really good, better than any other digital TV I've seen and helps a lot to aim the antenna properly.
2011-09-05, 07:52 PM
Ham.Clan: Just for clarification: Can you receive CFTO channel 9 Toronto? This station is the Southern Ontario TVGOS host station.
2011-09-06, 08:06 AM
What about CKCO or CFPL? Are either of these TVgos stations? If not we are SOL in London, Ontario. I'm thinking about buying either a Sony or Samsung TV and would like a program guide so I need to find out about this. Does anyone in London, Ontario have a tv with working program guide? Funny thing is I have an old RCA tv with gem star guide plus and it still works even though I only have 4 analog channels on it, cbc cbc french, ctv sarnia and global sarnia. One of those stations must be still broadcasting analog guide data. Thanks in advance for any input.
2011-09-06, 10:47 AM
Jase88, yes I do get CFTO channel 9.
I wonder if it may be more of problem with my TV.
When setting up the TV guide, after entering my country and postal code information, I'm given the option of getting listing data either through the internet or OTA.
I've tried both with no success.
The internet option just hangs with no movement showing on the progress bars, even after an hour.
I'll try leaving it on channel 9 tonight, to see if that downloads the data.
I won't hold my breathe though.