: OTA On-Screen & Third Party Electronic Program Guides


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MonopolyBuster
2011-03-10, 09:19 AM
I was going over the rovicorp list of tv's with guides and I like the Samsung LN40c650. It is the only one in the size and price range that works for me. I have seen it locally for $798. I downloaded the owners manual and it doesn't say if it has an analog tuner or not. Under the fine tuning section it does say you only need to use this feature with analog channels but they could be talking about analog cable tv. Does anybody know if this TV has an analog tuner or not?

My Sony's TV Guide shows both analog and digital channel info. In 2009 I found my TV listed on Rovi as having the guide and that is why I bought it. Rovi is a U.S. company and this information is current and as we all know the U.S. has gone digital for mainstream TV.

I input to the TV a U.S zip code (do a google and use any zip code for Buffalo, Viagra Falls, etc) and the TV Guide shows all my OTA Canadian and U.S. stations. You need to wait a day for all the downloaded info for the TV Guide to get fully populated. Not sure if I used a Canadian postal code, that it would show guide information on my U.S. stations.

roger1818
2011-03-10, 11:31 AM
is there such a thing as a TV WITHOUT an analog tuner?

AFAIK, the only TVs that don't have an analog tuner are "TV Monitors" that don't have a digital tuner either. This will likely continue to be true until the Class A/LPTV/Translator stations go digital in the US and the cable companies go digital only. While the former is supposed to happen in 2012, the latter is likely years away.

OTOH, DTV set-top boxes rarely have an analog tuner.

SenorBlanco
2011-03-12, 04:23 PM
Hi folks,

Really excited to see that CFCF-12.1 is now on the air (yes, I'm a bit slow on the uptake). However, I've noticed that zap2it.com doesn't have the info in their database yet. I sent them a message a few weeks ago, but still no update (This is enlightened self-interest in my case, because my DVR software licenses their database, and I can't record this channel until they update). If you're in the same boat, feel free to send them a message at feedback@zap2it.com or http://www.zap2it.com/services/site/help/zap-faq-contact-channel,0,5059403.htmlstory. Thanks!

laurienicol
2011-03-14, 02:40 PM
Has anyone else had trouble getting the TV Guide on screen on channel 32 for the last few days? I lost it about Thursday and have been waiting for it to re-populate. I know I will lose it permanently when it goes digital, but Rovi says it should still be analog in Vancouver till then.

JesseBlue
2011-03-15, 07:19 PM
tv guide? isn't analog 32 ctv?

danbcman
2011-03-15, 08:14 PM
Laurienicol
As far as a tv guide within the OTA signal for anolog I can say I have never had one for any station.
I think you may want to give more direct info on your setup and the before and after info related to your problem

laurienicol
2011-03-16, 04:09 PM
TVGOS has been available in the analog format for OTA on Channel 32. I asked Rovi Corp and they corrected the set-up problem I had with my postal code. So I've been lucky to get it. In the States, it's all on digital channels now, but it was available until last week at least on Channel 32 here in Vancouver, if you pointed your antenna right and left the TV off overnight.
Panasonic included it on their high end TVs for 2 years but no longer. And it was only on the analog tuner.
It's still available in the digital format, and Rovi Corp lists which TV's include it.

http://www.rovicorp.com/support/13350.htm

I was wondering if anyone else lost the guide, as I expected to lose it 31 Aug 2011 when Ch. 32 eliminated their Analog channel.

danbcman
2011-03-16, 08:15 PM
It seems to me this is a feature that comes into your cable and not from info in the stream the antenna picks up if is this so could you please explain how the system works?

Trip
2011-03-17, 08:07 AM
http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php?request=tvgosdoc

- Trip

danbcman
2011-03-17, 10:08 AM
The best approach would be to contact directly the broadcaster CTV as to the status of the data being broadcast, have they dropped it or what ever.

Rick Dude
2011-03-22, 10:51 AM
Yes, the TVGOS has disappeared on my HDD recorder picking up CTV by antenna.

Getting the "TV Guide my not be available in your area" message. :(

roger1818
2011-03-22, 04:49 PM
I wonder if as part of their upgrade from analog to digital TVGOS, CTV has dropped support for analog TVGOS?

Steve Smart
2011-03-22, 09:14 PM
I don't know about BC, but as late as yesterday CTV Toronto (CFTO) was still sending out the analog TVGOS signal. It must be on a station by station basis.

It's not a good solution, but one of the Channel Master boxes can receive digital TVGOS and pass along the analog TVGOS signal to an analog-only device.

laurienicol
2011-03-23, 11:37 AM
I checked the TV Guide feature this morning before leaving for work. (analog, CTV Vancouver). It's back.

bladeduguay
2011-04-25, 11:22 AM
Can someone please help.
My TV Guide on my Sony Bravia is not working.
All the channels are there but they all say "No Listing"

The TV is the same as the one at Save and Replay. Their Sony Guide is working just fine.

I've tried:
Different postal codes.
Unplugging for 12 hours and then doing the whole setup again.
Leaving the TV plugged in but off got 72 hours.

The only change that I did was to rescan the channels. But, I have done this before and it has never been an issue.
Also added a computer to use the TV as a monitor. I have since removed this and put everything back to the way it was before. But still no change.

PLEASE HELP!!!!

300sflyer
2011-04-25, 12:26 PM
My Sony did this once. I ended up using doing a complete reset on the tv, and then reloading everything in again. This cured the problem. You can find instructions on how to reset it, in your owners manual.

bladeduguay
2011-04-25, 01:44 PM
Thanks 300sflyer! I'll look it up in the manual and hope it works.

cptmds
2011-05-30, 12:40 AM
Recently bought two TVs (returned the first). I'll give a rundown of the EPGs:

Toshiba 32C100U: Only gives the current and next program, with description. At the very least it's better than my Sony, which only shows "now" (with a short, usually cut-off description).

Samsung LN32D450: Great EPG. Full description of everything, and can see the full guide. So far, it stops after 12 hours, although I think this is the limit of the guide data sent by the stations. You can view the EPG in three ways:

1. A standard bar on the top of the screen, with description, times, and how far along you are into the current program for the currently tuned channel.
2. A list of channels, with what is on currently on each channel.
3. A program timetable for a selected channel, much like that sent by the cable companies, only vertical and not horizontal and with the limit that you can't see more than one channel at once. On the plus side, you get to see ~10 hours at once rather than the 3 for cable.

For numbers 2 and 3, you can see guide data for channels other than the one you are watching (without tuning to that channel). The catch is that you have to tune into the channel beforehand at some point so that it can get the guide data. Also, turning the TV off clears this data.

Really, this guide is the best I've seen so far. It's also one of the reasons I bought this TV.

wing
2011-06-09, 01:29 PM
I wasn't sure if I should post this here or in the computer section it kind of spans both realms.

I'm trying to get good listings with mc2xml but I can't seem to get 4.1 CBCOT and 17.1 CITYHD listings when I use this tool.

Anyone have any ideas what could be wrong? What do people use? Should I just pay the $20 to schedules direct?

vejostde
2011-06-09, 02:22 PM
Pay for schedules direct. I use mythtv, and when you consider the cost of Schedules Direct compared to SageTV, Windows, or BeyondTV it's a bargain.