: ON - Oakville, Burlington, Milton, Halton - OTA
2011-09-11, 08:53 PM
If you are just trying to improve the signal of current channels, then you don't need to re-scan, but if you are trying to get 'new' channels, then yes a re-scan is necessary each time you move the antenna.
Yes you should ground your antenna.
You may want to consider a pre-amp, I have a 4228 and receive all Buffalo fairly well with a channel master 7777. It's pointed SE at buffalo, it also picks up most Canadian channels, but I also have a 4221 pointed at the CN tower, but once I get my 4228 to the peak of my house instead of the side I'm hoping to go to only 1 antenna. Though most of us in Burlington will need 2 antennas.
I'm at Upper Middle and Appleby.
2011-09-13, 08:12 PM
Just wondering if anyone in Burlington is getting the ION or MYTV channels consistently.I,m using a homemade M4 that gets great signal strength on most of the US channels and the Canadian channels are also strong.Just ION and MYTV don,t lock on very well or at all.Any imput would be helpful.
2011-09-13, 10:21 PM
Ion is the weakest channel for me, usually doesn't come in. I'm in Milton, and all the other Buffalo stations come in clear. Seems to be specific to Ion (and I've been tryin, their subchannel Quobo has some good kids content).
2011-09-14, 08:45 AM
With a DB8 in Halton Hills I can only receive Ion (51) when tropo is good, however, I always receive MyTV (49).
Milton is about 10 KM closer to the MyTV transmitter than Halton Hills, so I would try changing the direction of the antenna, or expand your 4 bay to an 8 bay...
2011-09-14, 02:00 PM
followed your instructions. without my pre amp the best i got was 6 stations all out of toronto and lost all my buffalo stations no matter where i aimed it. with the uhf pre amp i used to get 26 stations it was rated at a 28db gain 2.0 loss. switched to a uhf vhf pre amp with a 15db gain on both vhf and uhf and a 2.8db loss and now only get at best 22 stations having lost fox and wkbw and wned and chch. would buying a cm7777 pre-amp or winegard 8275 be a helpful thing to do?
2011-09-15, 03:16 PM
just wondering if anyone out there has had a chance to try the winegard 8275 and if it is better than the cm7777 pre amp. the specs indicate that it has a higher vhf and uhf gain.
2011-09-16, 04:14 PM
I've been reading the forums for some time and have to admit that I'm getting more confused. I'm here because I've had enough of the local cable company. Three repair visits in the last year, new cables run, $$ etc.etc.
We live in Oakville, south east of Dundas & Trafalgar.
Last weekend (Sept 10, 2011) I connected a set of old rabbit ears to the TV on the main floor to see what channels I might get. Here is the channel list. I don't know the strength as I couldn't figure out how to check that so I put in a qualitative of 1 to 5. 5 being excellent.
4.1 WIVB-HD (0-1)
5.1 CBLT-DT (5)
7.1 WKBK (3)
9.1 CFTO (5)
11.1 CHCH (3-4)
19.1 TVO (4)
23.1 WNLO (4)
25.1 CBLFT-D (2)
41.1 CIII-HD (2)
In general I was pleased even though some channels aren't too great.
What we would like is to get the US channels from Buffalo. In particular the main 3 US (CBS/ABC/NBC) and perhaps CBC/CTV/Global/TVO here.
My TVFool info is: http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d14f3bfdeee3fdf
I realize the following questions might be a really stupid but I'm getting more lost as I read the forums, read the FAQs, antenna test, interesting diagrams and try to figure out what antenna etc. I should try. I feel like I've got vapour lock.
So if you don't mind, my initial questions are:
Am I likely to need the two antenna solution or can I get by with one? (I pray I can get by with one because the thread about setting up and tuning 2 really got confusing.)
Do I need to put an antenna on the roof or should I be able to get by with one in the attic? What should I consider in this regard.
Thanks very much.
2011-09-17, 02:40 PM
I'm between guelph and milton and I get CTV at 100%/100% from Toronto. It's the strongest station for me. But, I still can't see CTV2, and I never have. Is that normal? I also get a very strong signal from CHCH in Hamilton.
2011-09-17, 09:16 PM
At the moment, CTV Too in this area is just CKVR in Barrie. If you couldn't get it before, you won't now either. However, they are supposed to be getting a couple of repeaters soon, one in Hamilton and the other in Font Hill IIRC. Perhaps then you'll be able to receive it.
2011-09-18, 10:22 AM
I'm in your area. I have two Channel Master UHF antennas and one $7 set of rabbit ears in the attic. I'm reliably getting ABC CBS NBC FOX and the CW networks from Buffalo and all the CN tower based Canadian stations. The rabbit ears were required to pull in CFTO.
I feed the three into a splitter in the attic and then split the feed down to two TVs. It works. CHCH is a bit inconsistent. No CKVR.
2011-09-20, 09:23 AM
pjdavision, where are you located?
2011-09-21, 07:19 PM
Tom.F.1 and his brother installed a dual CM4221HD array with a drop amp last Sunday.
Original scan was 40 channels including Rochester NY 106 miles away.
Thanks guys for going the extra mile for me.
2011-09-22, 05:42 PM
Here is a snap of the array.
2011-09-26, 11:49 AM
Hi All New to the forum.
I just bought a CM 4228HD with a 10ft mast and brackets to attach it to the West South corner of my house or as close to the peak as posibble. My cable run will be approximately 125ft (RG6) and I plan on going directly to Panisonic Plasma down stairs for now. I was thinking about getting the CM rotor but they are out of stock till November. I live at Upper Middle and Appleby and here are my TV Fools results.
1. From what I see in the forum would it be better to get a second antenna such as the CM4221HD and point it at the CN tower and point my CM4228HD south to Buffalo to get all the CDN and US channels and scrap the rotor?
2. If I have just the one antenna with CM rotor do I have to scan every time I move the rotor?
filper I like you picture, nice set up!
2011-09-26, 04:48 PM
How did it go? I live at 4th Line and Dundas and I get by with 1 CM4221HD attic install with a CM7777 Preamp.
I receive all channels consistently now with the Canadian digital cutover (I only had issues with City) as well as getting Ion from Batavia, NY during late spring to mid fall.
2011-09-26, 05:06 PM
Thanks for the vote. I can't tell what would be best for you, but a rotor would have been very annoying having 4 TV's in the house (if you know what I mean).
2011-09-26, 06:19 PM
Parity123, you may not be aware, but we believe there is currently a transmitter problem with City TV (also affecting OMNI 1 & 2). Check out Citytv & Rogers OMNI Post-Transition Status (http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?p=1326933#post1326933) for details.
2011-09-27, 03:17 PM
Thanks. I was getting CITY fine last night. What I meant was that before digital conversion, city was the only channel I was having problems with other than ION during winter. Now after the cutover, city is reliable
2011-10-04, 05:49 PM
So I finally got everything installed on the weekend. I have two antennas on a 10ft pole which is about 40 ft in the air on the South West cover of the house and it is grounded as well. CM 4228HD pointing at approximately at 140 degrees magnetic North and CM 4221HD pointing at 60 degrees magnetic North. I am using Elegato's HDHome run and I am getting 27 channels. If anyone knows how I can add a pic I will snap a shot of the antennas and a screen shot of the channel line up.
2011-10-06, 05:21 PM
CFTO seems to be very low power.
I can rarely get it anymore.