: OTA Station Status: Montréal, QC, Northern NY & VT



formula1
2011-01-24, 10:28 AM
I also lost 3.1 & 5.1 last week, but no issues with 33.1. Still haven't got them back. Something's not 100% at Mt Mansfield. Everything else coming in OK. I'm in St Leonard. I thought I was the only one having issues with Mt Mansfiled stations.

Maybe most folks that had strong signal locks to start with wont notice a difference, but I was in the 40% range for 3 & 5, & now both are gone.

Blackburst
2011-01-24, 11:04 AM
I can also confirm that there was a signal drop on Sunday during the game on WFFF-DT on my end. I'm in the Cote-des-Neiges area of Montreal. My usual signal strength is 55%, and it dropped at one point to 36%. Result, signal break up at times. I checked my other channels, WCAX-DT was at 72% (usually at 80%). WPTZ-DT was at 50% (usually at 71%). As usual my WCFE-DT had no change at around 91%. Only the stations coming from Mt. Mansfield seemed effected. I didn't check WETK-DT.

My set-up is as follows. DB8 Antenna to CM3412 to TV. I removed the line going into the CM3412 for a few seconds. Then I reconnected it. All signals returned to normal strength. There must have been some sort of signal surge that over loaded my CM3412. The only station that I can think that may have done that was CBMT-TV 6. That was the only station that seemed really screwed up until I removed the line. Could actually be the really cold weather that caused this signal surge.

formula1
2011-01-24, 11:30 AM
Thanks for the update & clarification on Mt Mansfield signal drop. Looks like the drop was just enough to wipe my fringe reception at 30% signal strength. Hope it gets better soon. Too cold for me to hit the attic & verify connections... I'll wait till it warms up this week. If the issue persists, I'll try swapping out the amp, but at this point safe to assume my issues are weather related.

intravino
2011-01-24, 02:30 PM
I heard that they will be back on then air next week. :confused:

Keychaine
2011-01-26, 07:18 PM
Sorry Guys,
Quote: NO iceing here,have full power, was last nites email from Mt Mansfield. Jumped the gun....Went by previous email. I"m 122 miles from from the tower(deepest fringe area) A small amount of ice build up there gives me a bad signal here.

Kraven
2011-01-28, 10:01 AM
For those who receive CBS (WCAX Burlington), its sub channel WCAX-Extra (weather channel) signed an agreement w/ University of Vermont to broadcast some of its hockey and basketball games.

Schedule is here: http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=13397343

Cheers, K!

downbeat
2011-01-28, 10:06 AM
IIRC, this could be some kind of renewal. I recall seeing such programming on WCAX on my last visit to Montreal.

Kraven
2011-01-28, 10:51 AM
As a hockey fan Im pleased... lots of good good hockey w/ Maine, Umass, Boston College etc.

w52cd though is another topic. Not only am I not getting a signal, their website is offline too (not a good sign). Unfortunate since they had a lot of cool retro programming (knight rider, buck rogers, air wolf etc).

According to wikepedia, "Prior to December 2010, WGMU has experienced long term black outs (i.e. dead air; static/snow), lasting several weeks or months, and so has only been broadcasting sporadically", which I ask how can a station go black for weeks or months and not close/go bankrupt.

stampeder
2011-01-28, 10:29 PM
Please use this temporary thread to discuss CFCF-DT:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=135984

This will keep other OTA station status posts from being buried in all the good news. :)

Smog
2011-01-30, 02:12 PM
. When CJNT-DT begins, it's signal will probably be received by most people in Montreal on UHF 49 with 4kw of power.

I so hope I'll be able to get CJNT-DT as even with all the snowy signal, I love moviola's short films

Blackburst
2011-02-02, 11:29 AM
Concerning the interference due to high powered analog stations (http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?p=1215964), perhaps it would be a good thing if they began to lower their power outputs from now to the end of August 2011. Nothing major, but perhaps 3% by each month. CFJP-TV 35, and CIVM-TV 17,are pump out a lot of power on something that has to be turned off in 7 months. And cause interference on lower powered stations. Even CBFT-TV 2, and CBMT-TV 6, are pumping a lot of power. And channel 6 seems to suffer from multi-pathing more than others. At least at my location.

Focus and energy should be on the DTV stations, and helping people with the transition. Causing interference on channel 51 doesn't help anybody.

Also, considering how low powered CFCF-DT is on Channel 51, and how far the signal is reaching, do the future UHF stations such as CBFT-DT (19), CBMT-DT (21), CIVM-DT (26) etc really need such high power allocations?

I still don't think the formula used by the FCC & Industry Canada/CRTC really understand how the ATSC signal really travels in real world situations.

It would be really important for the CBC/SRC to get their Montreal DT stations up and running on the Mount Royal Tower with perhaps a 50kw of power each, and see how far the signals can travel. It can be used as a measuring stick for all the other stations, and determine if more power is needed or not.

downbeat
2011-02-02, 11:59 AM
Let's remember that not everyone can install the perfect antenna outdoor antenna system. Low ERPs would be of no use to those people.
With that in mind, I figure higher ERPs are to help those who can't/won't install outdoor antennas and those who can't/don't have a proper indoor antenna solution.
There's also the matter of higher power offering better signal penetration for modern buildings.
As for analog stations reducing power, it might be worth noting that CFTM 10 and CFCF 12 have been running about half-power since their antenna was replaced, as noted in Stampeder's mirror of the Industry Canada database.

mille
2011-02-02, 12:10 PM
Concerning the interference due to high powered analog stations, perhaps it would be a good thing if they began to lower their power outputs from now to the end of August 2011. Nothing major, but perhaps 3% by each month. CFJP-TV 35, and CIVM-TV 17,are pump out a lot of power on something that has to be turned off in 7 months. And cause interference on lower powered stations. Even CBFT-TV 2, and CBMT-TV 6, are pumping a lot of power. And channel 6 seems to suffer from multi-pathing more than others. At least at my location.

I agree, it would send a message that the transition will end soon, as analog transmission ; and, may be reduce de RF emission that make that CBFT and CBMT DT can't broadcast NOW from the main tower in Mt-Royal...;)

downbeat
2011-02-02, 12:12 PM
It's been reported here that the problem on Mount Royal is with the master FM antenna. Reducing output from TV stations will not remediate the issue.

ota_shaman
2011-02-04, 12:05 PM
Anybody know when Global 46 will go digital ? Is it a question of money that some stations are taking long to do the transition ?

downbeat
2011-02-04, 01:55 PM
@ota_shaman: Global (CKMI) has until Aug. 31, to make the DTV transition. They are under no obligation to do it beforehand. It might not even be possible for the move to happen earlier, as Channel 15 (their DTV allocation) is not currently listed by Industry Canada for use during the transitional period. (Of course, that's not cast in stone.)

mille
2011-02-04, 03:01 PM
..and they share the antenna of CBFT and CBMT DT , who can't broadcast from it before end march or even april....

ironj
2011-02-07, 08:20 PM
following up from a previous post, all of a sudden i get 44.1 at 40% (up from zero)...has anything changed on their end?

HDBruce
2011-02-08, 08:22 AM
They were transmitting at reduced power. It was fixed last week and they are back to full power. No information from the station as to what happened.

schoenbe
2011-02-09, 08:41 AM
..and they share the antenna of CBFT and CBMT DT , who can't broadcast from it before end march or even april....
mille, note that CBMT and CBFT will broadcast from backup antennas between (hopefully) April and September. Global will be sharing with CBMT and CBFT the final 16-bay antenna on top of the platform (post-transition).