: OTA Station Status: Montréal, QC, Northern NY & VT



K2YI
2010-03-01, 03:57 AM
I've noticed all this last week, a new transmitter that has come on line (RF 18), that they are running 5 KW down from 15 KW max and testing, when the wet, clingy snow is on the antennas, that station will come in at 40% SS, until the temps come up, snow falls off, and the SS goes to bouncing 0 to 15% SS, unwatchable. I can't explain it, but it's been happening religiously after every night-time snow fall. No snow, no good signal.
This may have the same effect for those seeing weird reception with the northern stations....just a thought.

intravino
2010-03-02, 01:47 PM
I don't think there was a change in CKTM power output, the past 3 weeks it's been the same.

I Always check CKTM on my CM4221 every other day. I don't think it was that.

Here in Beloeil, we are almost local to them, if you consider the picture I get on my TV.

Blackburst
2010-03-10, 05:39 PM
Does anybody know what DR stands for on the FCC TV Query site? I noticed something for WNVY. They have a WVNY-DR entry. It seems to be related to some sort of allotment or modification change. Not sure though.

tvlurker
2010-03-10, 07:01 PM
Does anybody know what DR stands for on the FCC TV Query site? I noticed something for WNVY. They have a WVNY-DR entry. It seems to be related to some sort of allotment or modification change. Not sure though.
It's a request for rulemaking,. The DR for WVNY was the one where they successfully requested that their digital alocation be changed from 16 to 13. The actual details are in another FCC database.

It's very old news.

Wirenut
2010-03-13, 11:57 PM
Got up this morning and turned the TV and tuned to WVNY which I normally receive all choppy and pixellated and generally un-watchable.... Then around 10:30AM, it stabilised for no reason and it's been quite watchable since... Not superstrong mind you, still a bit of occasional pixellation but very watchable.

:eek: Just like that

I didn't change or move anything in my setup. Original CM4228 with CM7777 pre-amp. BTW, all other channels (NBC, CBS, Fox and PBS) have always been strong and stable from the beginning but WVNY has never worked well.

Not complaining mind you but it bugs me that I can't figure out why :confused:

Getting a good picture on 2 of my ATSC tuners (VS9000 and Sharp Aquos TV) and no picture AT ALL on the other 2 (SV-HD8000 and Pionneer Kuro TV).
The more I try to figure this stuff out, the less I understand.

Oh well, hope the good signal lasts for a while. Probably some kind of temporary atmospheric conditions thing. :)


Update March 14:

Gave this some more thought.... I noticed the signal strength is about the same as it's always been. But it's the signal quality that has drastically improved and stabilized although it constantly jumps from 45 to 90 percent. Maybe that's why the other (less sensitive) tuners can't get a lock on the signal and display no picture at all?... So I'm thinking maybe it was a local source of interference that might have been causing the prior instability and pixellation in the signal? And that has somehow now been removed since yesterday? Anybody else experience something similar?

stampeder
2010-03-14, 01:25 PM
Wirenut does your tuner display offer you SNR or Error figures? Those can be very revealing when the signal is otherwise good. I've posted about that previously in here:

Debugging Momentary "Blips" in my ATSC Reception (http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=120693)

Wirenut
2010-03-14, 02:49 PM
Thanks for the tip Stamp. Unfortunately, my receiver's tuner doesn't display those parameters. Only signal strength and signal quality. I would need a sophisticated signal meter for that.

Speaking of which... I read that Promax Explorer thread you posted.. sigh!! There was no mention of price on the web site and that's usually a BAAAD sign!! :) I want one but I'd probably have to get a 2nd mortgage on my house to buy it ;)

Back to the topic... I may have found the source of interference.

I realized that the signal improving coincided with a relative (who lived upstairs from me) moving out. I just found that she had a 2-way splitter hooked up to the output of one of the Diseqc switches (from the roof dish). One of the splitter's out's was hooked up to a TVs that had an intermittent connection on the tuner's F-connector. Yesterday morning, she disconnected everything from that coax cable.

The splitter and TV were on the 2nd floor close to the chimney where my antenna mast + CM7777 pre-amp are anchored. I'll stay tuned to Channel 22 and keep you all posted. Thanks again for your help

etiennemh
2010-03-23, 09:12 AM
Hi,

I'm doing scanning this morning and SRC CBC V aren't anymore showing sign and virtual positionning. No more data!

Like 6.1 it's 20.3 and 35.1 it's 42.1.

It's me or someone else have the same problem?

Etienne

Mavman
2010-03-24, 10:25 PM
Has anyone heard any news about CBC/CTV broadcasting in HD and transmitting from Mount-Royal? I received an e-mail from someone at CBC a while ago and they said late 2009, but it looks like nothing's changed on that front. Thanks

slam2010
2010-03-25, 07:19 PM
Since yesterday, there's no signal on channel 20 (global TV) in Quebec city.
What is the problem?

Yuprules
2010-03-30, 07:16 PM
slam2010: This is a Montreal thread :) Doubt we could tell you if it was up or not :)

Mavman:
I can't seem to find it (this thread is getting huge). The last news was someone had found a power point presentation from October 2009 about the "difficulties" of using the existing transmission tower and ensuring the whole thing doesn't come crashing down . It also has FM transmitters on it as well which makes it difficult.

So far work is scheduled to begin this spring, I doubt CBC will move in 2010 to the tower. But work is progressing finally

All other english channels don't care about converting to HD over the air until they are forced in 2011 and none of them are using their temporary HD channel allotments that were given to them by the CRTC. Frankly, I don't care either as I have NOT watched an prime time program on U.S. stations over the air instead of local stations in the last 2 years. Tough beans for them, I'll watch CBS/NBC/FOX instead of CTV/Global.

stampeder
2010-03-30, 09:44 PM
Quebec City station status is okay in here too. :)

stampeder
2010-04-14, 02:18 AM
Several posts have been moved to the City of Montreal thread since they are about a member's reception and not about the actual operational status of the stations:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=53294

davebert
2010-04-14, 11:03 AM
Did anyone noticed that the guide info on the English CBC has changed, it now only say "HD event ###". The time on my LG when tune to CBC shows it is one hour ahead, but it shows the correct time on other channels.

krusty79
2010-04-14, 11:13 AM
Same thing on my Samsung 32"...

But you'll have the answer there:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=123571

Marc said:
CBLT-DT Toronto's PSIP has been restored. Vancouver, Ottawa and Montreal will take longer as they are fed differently.

intravino
2010-04-19, 04:32 PM
Do you remember that the new owners of WGMU/WNMN said this :

Their owner also announced that the station will air a mix of RTV and local programming. It will also have five digital subchannels one of which will air MyNetworkTV (WGMU's former affiliation)

I read this on FYBUSH.COM:

It was just a few months ago when VERMONT's long-running "Corm and the Coach" morning show returned to the airwaves in a burst of publicity, but as of Thursday the duo of Steve Cormier and Tom "Coach" Brennan is once again off the air. Money's at the root of the problem; in a Facebook posting, Cormier complained that he hadn't been paid by his new station, Convergence Media Group's WNMR (107.1 Dannemora NY), since last November. For now, WNMR is still on the air with syndicated talk, but without its star personalities, can the station still find traction in a competitive (and probably over-radioed) market?

If they cannot pay their Radio Personalities, I cannot see how they can pay for new equipment for broadcasting 5 new feeds on about 5 antennas on 5 different locations. Convergence Media Group is the parent company of WGMU.

Blackburst
2010-04-21, 09:37 PM
intravino... I know what you mean. It would seem much more simple to place a full power transmitter on Lyon Mountain (like WCFE) to cover the entire area than to fix-up 5 or so analog transmitters to digital. Also, if you look at the FCC site, the Construction Permit for W52CD to go digital on channel 41 is gone.

As a side note look at this,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WNMN
Ion on 40.2

tvlurker
2010-04-21, 11:44 PM
intravino... I know what you mean. It would seem much more simple to place a full power transmitter on Lyon Mountain (like WCFE) to cover the entire area than to fix-up 5 or so analog transmitters to digital.
Unfortunately not, since if you check on TVFool, you'll see that WCFE barely gets a signal into most of the village of Saranac Lake, let alone a city grade one.

Like it or not, FCC rules say that you have to serve your City of License with a city-grade signal. The fact that the real market is Burlington/Plattburgh is irrelevant to the lawyers in Washington. That's why putting up a 12 kW transmitter on the cheap in Saranac Lake gets the (pending) owners what they need, when they already have translators to cover the real market in the Champlain Valley and Central Vermont..

Keychaine
2010-04-21, 11:51 PM
Anybody got the latest on CTV and GLOBEL going DIGITAL.

Blackburst
2010-04-22, 10:18 AM
tvlurker...

perhaps my post was not clear. WNMN is licensed for Saranac Lake. But WGMU is licensed in Burlington with other low powered transmitters all over the place to cover the Burlington/Plattsburgh market. What I was referring to was WGMU operating with a single transmitter from Lyon Mountain to cover their market instead of blowing capital to upgrade all those low powered stations. My link to WMNM was simply to show that WMNM has already added ION to it's x.2 and that perhaps this will be something that we can expect from WGMU and all it's low powered re-transmitters in the future.