To KRO:

did your WVNY signal got better with the 10, 12 analog off, and 13(T-R) with lower erp's?

Here, the signal improved about 20%

@yipikyer

Here, there was no change in WVNY's signal level after the analog shut-off but its always been relatively stable (and still is) on my TV and tv tuners (Avermedia Duet A188/ Hauppauge 950Q).

However, being on the south shore, I am aiming at Mt. Mansfield which is ~200 degrees off from the Mt. Royal so the blast coming from the analog stations was always hitting the BACK of my antennas (91XG/10Y13 -> CM7777 -> 6 way splitter) which seemed to have rejected enough for a low but stable WVNY signal compared to others whom had to go through those analogs to receive WVNY and are now seeing improvements. Just a thought.

Side note: Only V(CFJP) and Metro14(CJNT) are too low for a lock coming from the back of my antenna but, if I aim an indoor homemade CM4221 clone through a brick wall ~10 ft above ground, I can receive them fine (V: ~65%, CJNT: ~85%) so all available channels should be fine at my location with some fine tuning like a bandpass filter & 3rd antenna in my tower toward Montreal (or, temporarily, dedicating a spare TV tuner on my PVR to those channels I barely watch anyway!).

Are these people for real ? they have become the only channel that most people cannot get after the transition ...gives new meaning to the word "progress" !

@EdT

Yeah that's insane how we now have WORSE signal AFTER the switch over. What a stupid channel, no wonder no one watches it. Stupid CFJP 35.1. I used to have 5 bars out of 10 before Sept 1st, just fine for watching...now ZERO signal after Sept 1st...duhhhhhhh.

Are these people for real ? they have become the only channel that most people cannot get after the transition ...gives new meaning to the word "progress" !
What are people having rabbit ears on their tv are receiving if with a cm 4228 you do not get it ?
For me also it is much weaker than before(1 over 6 instead of 3 over 6 ) but I have a stable image tonigth.I had some pixels around 6pm.

I just rescanned 35.1 from 4 different locations with a CM4228HDs and none of them can catch 35.1 !

Can anyone confirm that WCFE 57.1 is back to full power? My signal is so weak it's hard to tell, but the warning about low power is gone from their site.

For me 57.1 is back to normal - 82 over 100 - last week it was at 75/100 - DB 8 CM 7777

If you guys are having trouble getting CFCF-12DT after a rescan, I experienced this with many people yesterday that even though the signal from CFCF-12 is strong it has a tendency to be not picked up by a rescan and you may have to rescan it a 2nd or 3rd time before it gets picked up.

CHLF originates in Hawkesbury. Ottawa does not have a transmitter for TFO (ARGH!)

-gmd

Anyone else having intermittent trouble with CJNT 62.1 (Metro-14)? The signal is weak as of last night, so either it's breaking up or just not there at all. Then later in the day it can be stable...

At least it's a better situation than V and Tele-Quebec, I've about given up hope on those.

If you guys are having trouble getting CFCF-12DT after a rescan, I experienced this with many people yesterday that even though the signal from CFCF-12 is strong it has a tendency to be not picked up by a rescan and you may have to rescan it a 2nd or 3rd time before it gets picked up.
Using an HTPC with Windows media center, I could never add CFTM or CTV by rescanning. I had to add them manually. Now they come in fine...

Anyone having trouble with OTA tuning on WMC needs to see the important threads about it in the HTPC Forum:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=31

ou en français ici: Windows Media Center et ATSC (http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=143799)

at night, WVNY (22.1) off air, someone has idea?

Maybe a cost saving measure.

anyone know if CTV2 will be available OTA in montreal?

I have not seen any plans to make CTV2 available OTA anywhere A was not not already availalbe -- and since Calgary and Edmonton lost their OTA access to CTV2 with the digital transition, I don't imagine Montreal would be a priority.

For one thing, Bell would have to convince the other private broadcasters Global and Channel Zero (Metro14) not to complain about the additional competition, which is what historically kept A and City out of the Montreal market for years.

There is also the political issue of having more Anglophone stations than Francophone stations in Montreal -- right now we have 3 anglophone, 4 francophone, and 1 multilingual/anglo station that sell advertising. (I'm excluding CFTU aka Canal Savoir, since they don't sell ads.)

right now we have 3 anglophone, 4 francophone

Metro 14 is really anglophone, so it's a tie at 4:4. It is a shame that half of the francophone stations don't even cover the entire area (as the anglophone stations do), with Télé-Québec and V not serving significant ports of Western Montreal. So on the one hand you have policies enforcing that there not be more English than French stations. On the other hand, you have French stations that don't serve the viewing area. It just doesn't add up ...

If you read further, you will see that I counted Metro14 as multilingual/anglo.

The 4/4 makes an even stronger argument that it will be very difficult for the CRTC to approve another anglo station. Even having CJOH-TV-8 Cornwall convert to digital, switch to CTV2 from CTV, and cover the west end of the island, would not fly -- in fact, Global had initally tried to have a retransmitter in Maxville back in the seventies, and then channel 11 in Cornwall later on, and these were denied as they would be receivable in Montreal.

Note that "receivable in Montreal" really means "eligible for prioirity carriage by Videotron and VDN", and not any concern for how well the OTA would atually work.

According to the CRTC, TFO [39 - Hawkesbury] is "receivable in Montreal", yet never got preferential treatment for carriage, for political reasons. It's all relative to who's analyzing the data.

But it does add a +1 to your list... (and TVO [48 - Hawkesbury] even things out)

-gmd