: OTA Station Status: Vancouver, Victoria (Closed - use 2011)



Marc
2006-05-26, 02:02 PM
For several months we've been working on different issues with the HD fibre network. (Nothing huge, just growing pains.) Working with the manufacturer and fibre carrier we are at a point where the network is stable, but the clock is off by an hour. When I checked CBLT-DT this morning, the guide was present and the correct show was highlighted, but the clock was off by an hour. I could misadjust the clock on this end to compensate, but then the guide would be offset.

The guide is programmed to have 7 days worth of data. Right now, my tuner is showing about 8 hours ahead.

Someone has been assigned to work with the manufacturer of the PSIP gear to find a solution or workaround to correct these issues.

Dog Byte
2006-05-26, 02:32 PM
The guide is programmed to have 7 days worth of data. Right now, my tuner is showing about 8 hours ahead.

Someone has been assigned to work with the manufacturer of the PSIP gear to find a solution or workaround to correct these issues.It's called the bleeding edge for a reason. Good luck with that.

sputnik
2006-05-27, 02:28 PM
Someone has been assigned to work with the manufacturer of the PSIP gear to find a solution or workaround to correct these issues.My observation is that now that the "Event ID" is provided is seems my reciever is more consistetly able aquire the video and audio stream. Much less full signal - black screen.

With CBC radio 1, 2, and 3 being audio only and taking up relatively little bandwidth it would be really cool oneday if the CBC would broadcast the audio as subchannels or and additonal audio feeds. Maybe in the enver further future CBC newworld could be broadcast when there is SD content is on.

Some articles the CBC may want to take a look at in their quest for the ultimate PSIP setings:

http://www.tvtechnology.com/features/On-RF/f_rf_technology-08.03.05.shtml

Doug Lung at TVTechnology may have some ideas"This month, I'll provide a more detailed look at Rod Hewitt's TSReader program. When combined with an inexpensive DTV tuner card ($260 or less) and an existing computer, TSReader will provide most of the data necessary to verify PSIP (program and system information protocol) table settings....."
Common PSIP problems:

http://broadcastengineering.com/mag/broadcasting_broadcasters_guide_psip/index.html"...Experience has shown that certain errors are common in many PSIP implementations. Typically, these problems include the following:
Missing tables, specifically the STT and EIT.

Major channel number set to the DTV RF channel number, rather than the associated (legacy) NTSC channel number.

TSID set to 0 or 1, the NTSC TSID, or to another station's TSID; or it is not the same in the three required places.

System time missing or set to 00:00:00 on 1/6/1980
Some receivers react to these errors by not tuning to that station. ..."

Any way thanks Marc and the fine folks as the "Ceeb" for the hard work they do in providing us with the signal.

Marc
2006-05-29, 08:45 AM
Thanks for the links sputnik. The issue isn't in the monitoring of PSIP, but rather how it is processed as it passes (or not :( )through various bits of hardware on the way to the transmitter.

Rick Dude
2006-05-29, 04:49 PM
I see that the current programme guide on CBUT-DT is for the Eastern time zone as shown by the NHL game times. Hopefully we can have a Pacific time zone guide later. :)

Off topic somewhat, but look how software updates for digital TV, PVRs and STBs are handled in the UK. They are broadcast OTA as part of the some of the TV channel multiplexes. Love the phrase "Playing this week" like the movie theatre!

http://www.dtg.org.uk/retailer/download_schedule.pl

Marc
2006-05-30, 04:24 AM
The guide is from a subscription service. It refreshes once a day. Later on, it will be fed directly from our automation system. When that happens, I expect it will be updated in near real time. It should also be more accurate.

Rick Dude
2006-05-30, 09:59 AM
Marc, thanks for all the info about the programme guide. Your input is much appreciated.

ardsa
2006-06-02, 01:50 AM
Marc,
The guide now shows up for me with the correct time.

stampeder
2006-06-11, 02:27 PM
Hi Rick, at this very moment the FCC is auctioning DTV slots for Low Power and Translator stations after a change of policy:

http://www.digitalhomecanada.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41567

I don't think we'll be seeing the new Bellingham stations in analogue. :)

blakew
2006-06-13, 01:02 AM
I bring news of their DT endevours. I got quick reply from a gent there who told me Our digital migration plans are well underway, with much of our equipment already in place. We are awaiting a TV "Review" by the CRTC this fall and, following that, we will likely make quicker progress.

He went on to thank me for my interest. :)

So chalk one up for Omni-TV 66 and KVOS-TV 12 for being keen on going digital. Take note CityTV and A-channel! (who've yet to get back to me, or have no plans to go digital yet, respectively) :mad:

More info on Omni as it comes in. I have also requested info on tower location and ERP (cross your fingers and pray it's over 4kWatts.) Give me an AMEN while you're at it! ;)

stampeder
2006-06-13, 02:18 PM
I think we need to bear in mind that much of the digital transition is happening purely in-house regarding the replacement/upgrading of studio equipment. I hope they were referring to digital OTA equipment in their reply.

Its interesting that they mention the upcoming CRTC review of OTA, because it is clearly becoming a watershed event in transition timeframes.

blakew
2006-06-13, 05:07 PM
oh geez, I didn't even thing about that! I was thinking review, meant the CRTC wanted to have a look at their equipment. But maybe he meant the CRTC review of OTA. And OTA's possible demise :mad:

Rick Dude
2006-06-18, 12:09 PM
CBUT-DT has no video this Sunday morning. Programme guide is there as is the programme rating. Signal strength shows same as always for me at about 70%.

sputnik
2006-06-19, 12:31 AM
Same here, though it came back this evening with video and audio.

blakew
2006-06-24, 03:18 PM
interesting, what you thought didn't work for you, worked fine for me. And now it's changed, I don't even know what the program name is. It has "CBUT HD VANCOUVER, Event ## <The ## being any two digit number> No program information is available." However the time remaining seems correct.

Before the "fix" everything was correct (for me).

stampeder
2006-06-24, 10:29 PM
CBUT HD VANCOUVER, Event ## <The ## being any two digit number> No program information is availableI've been getting the same thing too in the PSIP program guide.

junior6
2006-06-28, 05:20 PM
Does anyone know if CTV is planning to increase their transmission wattage? I heard it's only 900 watts. Many people who cannot use an external antenna are unable to receive this. I can receive CBC HD no problem with a Silver Sensor indoor antenna.

markjanzen
2006-06-28, 09:36 PM
so you need an outdoor antenna to get ctv hd? i live near commercial drive and was thinking about getting a silver sensor and thought it would pickup cbc hd and ctv hd.

does anyone use a ota receiver made by US Digital. i think walmart sells it in the states but of course not up here.

blakew
2006-06-29, 01:55 AM
actually junior is only 319watts, but who's counting, (http://www.crtc.gc.ca/archive/ENG/Decisions/2004/db2004-66.htm) right? Mark, I have a silver sensor clone (the ATI HDTV wonder antenna) that I could sell. PM me if you're interested.

junior6
2006-06-29, 08:50 PM
Thanks blakew, I actually got the PHDTV3 from dell.ca already... it's amped and is a little stronger. It seems so pathetic for CTV to setup all the backend equipment and then just bottleneck their system with a measly low wattage transmitter. I sure hope they upgrade. I'm in a Richmond townhouse so outdoor antennas are not an option. I don't have much height(in ground level unit). It would be nice if other stations could follow in CBC's example... it's like ~15,000 watts right?