: OTA Station Status: Vancouver, Victoria (Closed - use 2011)



danbcman
2008-12-18, 11:56 AM
I was told by an engeneer at global that a better signal is not always more power related.
cbc is about 3x greater than global but it does not reflect that ratio in any of my reception indicators so it must be a location and more than likely antenna related issue or even tuner chip set type.

jasonbyers7
2008-12-18, 05:38 PM
I have noticed the PSIP changing every other day with CHAN-DT. This has caused a problem on my USB tuner as I have to rescan, otherwise it won't lock up properly.

danbcman
2008-12-18, 07:07 PM
They were adding info yesterday and actually another sub showed up for a while then it was gone at 6pm (news :) ) I guess there is still a remapping issue to iron out too.

stampeder
2008-12-23, 05:05 PM
On December 16, 1953—54 years ago today—Vancouver’s first locally-based television station, CBC-owned and operated CBUT channel 2, was launched when CBC chairman Davidson Dunton pushed a button at the station, a converted garage at the southwest corner of West Georgia and Bute Streets. CBUT began with network programming initially tape-delayed from Toronto.

http://www.insidethecbc.com/uploads/cbut_logo_1953-76.png

http://www.insidethecbc.com/happy-birthday-cbut

Insomniac
2008-12-24, 12:20 AM
Does anyone know where you can get the correct digital channel assignments? There is a closed thead in this forum that lists the assignments, but it seems out of date. For example, KVOS is listed as 35.1, but it is really at 35.121, KBCB is listed at 19.1, but I found it at 19.2.

danbcman
2008-12-24, 12:33 AM
I think your numbering system may be the cause of the differences this can happen from how each tuner defines what it has found and decides how to display that information.:)

stampeder
2008-12-24, 02:28 AM
Does anyone know where you can get the correct digital channel assignments?You can always check these:

Industry Canada:

http://www.user.dccnet.com/jonleblanc/Canada_TV_Stations/

FCC (USA):

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/audio/tvq.html

Insomniac
2008-12-24, 10:23 AM
Hmmm. Those links don't seem to provide the necessary information. If each receiver is different as Dan suggests, thats a real PITA. I have a Sony XBR2.

With analog, I would simply enter the channel and rotate the antenna until I get a picture. Then I would swing it back and forth to get the best picture.

With digital, I have to enter diagnostic mode and rotate the antenna for "lock" and best signal strength. At this point, I still don't have a picture. Next, I scan for digital channels which takes a long time - the receiver says it can take 50 minutes - seems more like 10 minutes in my case.

Those 30 second tests that PBS is doing are too short for all this. If I was sure that I could set my receiver to 9.4 then all I would have to do is punch in the number and see if I get a picture. I suppose that I could set the receiver to 9.1, turn on diagnostic mode and see if I get a "lock". I would then know that there is something there - just have to do a scan after they throw the switch in Feb 09. Who knows, I might get lucky and get a picture on 9.1.

dtvinvictoria
2008-12-31, 12:26 AM
Has anyone in the Victoria area been able to receive the channel 29 rebroadcast of CHNM? It has been listed on many websites however I have never been able to receive it.

danbcman
2008-12-31, 09:52 AM
There are not online digitally yet

dtvinvictoria
2009-01-01, 02:45 PM
I meant the analogue translator, I remember their was a time about a year ago that I did receive a rebroadcast of CHNM but then it strangely went off air. Now all I get is static when I tune to 29 no matter which direction I point my antenna.

peta
2009-01-02, 11:53 AM
What is the status about the buzz of CIVT-DT upping the power and being ready for Christmas?

stampeder
2009-01-02, 12:36 PM
Unfortunately there is no new CIVT-DT info to report... the gear is all installed but the holdup is apparently in Ottawa.

ardsa
2009-01-02, 09:39 PM
From the Industry Canada site:
http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/vwapj/DTV_PLAN_Dec08-e.pdf/$file/DTV_PLAN_Dec08-e.pdf

Vancouver Channels:
8 CHAN-TV
10 CKVU-TV
17 CIVI-TV-2
20 CHNM-TV
26 CBUFT
32 CIVT-TV
43 CBUT

Vacant
2
14
16
18
22
30
33
39
41
42
45

Victoria Channels:
15 CBC (no present analogue channel - interesting)
21 CHNU-TV-1
29 CHNM-TV-1
40 CIVI-TV
49 CHEK-TV

Vacant
6

Fraser Valley Channel:
47 CHNU-TV

I guess we will all need VHF antennas to receive Global and City from any distance.

CBC, Global and CTV will all have their broadcast channel change over the next two and a half years. City and SRC and E! will have to change from their transitional allotment if they ever start. Only OMNI is spared from adjusting their transitional channel.

I have not looked into the power levels yet. Comments anyone?
This forum will probably be busier than ever between now and Aug 31, 2011.

ardsa

stampeder
2009-01-03, 03:36 PM
Well I'm a bit discouraged now... there will be adjacent-channel problems for some of the SeaTac and Vancouver channels, even though ATSC doesn't have nearly the ACI troubles that NTSC does:

8 CHAN-DT Global
9 KCTS-DT PBS
10 CITY-DT City
11 KSTW CW
13 KCPQ-DT Fox

The issue will not be ACI, but rather the differing signal levels causing havoc with tuners if preamps are involved. Testing will tell. :eek: ERP levels will be very informative too.

ardsa
2009-01-03, 05:01 PM
I would not be surprised if channel 12 is used as well.

K60GV LPTV Bellingham does not have an assigned digital channel yet. Channel 12 is the only FCC assigned Bellingham channel not being used.

danbcman
2009-01-10, 11:55 PM
They now have there info on thier power and antenna at
http://members.shaw.ca/nwbroadcasters/digitaltv.htm
:)

stampeder
2009-01-11, 02:27 PM
BC Vancouver AU 20 CHNM-DT(1) INDE 492111 1225723 615.0 1354 506.00

jbr439
2009-01-12, 01:02 PM
With all the vacant slots at the high end, why aren't Global and City going there? This would seem to simplify things by NOT requiring we have VHF antennas to receive these 2 channels. Are there technical reasons for it?

stampeder
2009-01-12, 02:10 PM
Are there technical reasons for it?Broadcasters usually covet VHF-HI channels because it is less expensive (requires much less power) to broadcast in the VHF-HI band than in UHF for the same geographic area, and VHF-HI signals penetrate obstructions over long distances much better than UHF signals do. It didn't surprise me that almost all the post-transition VHF-HI channels in our area got grabbed up. No idea why KIRO-DT didn't grab 7 or KVOS-DT didn't grab 12 though.