Thanks for the info and encouragement El Gran Chico and FLavoie. Even if we don't receive a response from them that doesn't mean that our efforts are unnoticed. We don't know what is being said within TFO's walls.

"In Windsor for example, all they can get OTA is CBC, SRC, TVO, /A\ and a weak Global signal. As far as I am concerned, that's all the BDU's should be allowed to distribute in this 'market'. That would force other stations to come in and invest, and would also result in a lot less O&O's, especially if O&O's became capped like they are in the US."

The reason for that is Windsor is considered part of the Detroit market in terms of programming rights. That is why CBET has run alternate programming from the rest of the CBC network in the past, and why the Global and A transmitters are where they are with the power levels and nulls. If CTV were to add a repeater of say, CKCO, it would either have to be well to the east, or very directional to avoid the US.

Now getting back on topic, has anyone seen an official power level and transmitter height for the TVO transmitters other than Toronto, Ottawa, and London? I'm most concerned about Windsor, and how much of SE Michigan they will cover. Right now the analog covers a portion of it, so unless they go very weak on the ERP, I should have no problem getting the digital.

TVO Windsor (CICO-DT-32) will have an ERP of 19kW, and a radiation centre 214.3m (234.4 yards) above ground. I have not yet seen their projected coverage contour map. They are staying on channel 32.

From RabbitEars: http://www.rabbitears.info/contour.php?appid=1283753&map=Y

- Trip

Hi guys,

Our company have installed DTV transmitters in these two cities last week. Both are running under test procedures and will be operational by August 18 according to the customer.

They will replace older analog monsters in the premises right now with a very much smaller quiet unit.

RFMAN :cool:

Has the Toronto transmitters been installed yet?

I will not go into details because the info is confidential. The only thing I will say is the transmitter is installed, in test and ready for the deadline.

Can't wait to see them go on line at last.

RFMAN :cool:

14 days until London, Kitchener, Ottawa and Thunder Bay switch over.

It's like Christmas.. in August.


Any type of signoff/signon planned for TVO?

Any type of signoff/signon planned for TVO?
see post #357

Has the Toronto transmitters been installed yet?
YES it has

Does anyone know if TVO's transition dates are broadcast or calendar dates? I believe the broadcast day typically runs from 6am till 6am instead of midnight to midnight. If broadcast dates, the transition would actually happen on the mornings of the 17th and 19th (depending on the location).

Roger, it is very clear on the TVO transition site. http://www.gopublic.org/?page_id=914

Here is our conversion schedule:

In London, Kitchener, Ottawa and Thunder Bay, TVO will cease analog transmission at 1 am and begin digital transmission at 6 am on Tuesday August 16 on the following channels:
London: digital channel 18
Kitchener: digital channel 28
Ottawa: digital channel 24
Thunder Bay: digital channel 9
In Windsor, Chatham, Toronto, Belleville and Cloyne, TVO will cease analog transmission at 1 am and begin digital transmission at 6 am on Thursday August 18 on the following channels:
Windsor: digital channel 32
Chatham: digital channel 33
Toronto: digital channel 19
Belleville: digital channel 26
Cloyne: digital channel 44

El Gran Chico, Not really if you consider that for broadcasters Tuesday, August 16 ends at 6:00am on what we would call Wednesday, August 17th. If you go to TVO.org (http://www.tvo.org/TVO/WebObjects/TVO.woa?schedule) and look at the "Full Schedule" for a given date and you will see this to be true.

Sorry, but I'm very confused: :confused:

I thought we all lived in the same timezone and we all recognized local time in the terms of DST or EST.:(
Currently we are using DST.
It clearly states the times as 1:00am for shutdown time & 6:00am for startup time 'AM means the morning hours' for the morning of Tuesday, August 16 2011.

Am I missing something? :p

OTA is correct; we will all be sleeping during the changeover. Wake up and do a scan that morning.

Actually, come to think of it some more. For programing time slots, broadcasters would likely have to adhere to UTC times in order to comply with a standard time format for coast to coast program guides and to align program time shifting, Tivo, etc...

I believe the ATSC standard says the STT, transmitting current time information, should reflect the UTC offset of where the broadcast originates from.

This has nothing to do with timezones or the time of day that the transition will occur or even what the time the PSIP clock will have. It all has to do with what day of the month it will occur one.

Most people here have assumed that since TVO says it will occur between 1am and 6am on the 16th and 18th that they means the beginning of the calendar day. While this likely is the case, my point is that since this is a broadcaster we are talking about, they could possibly mean the end of the broadcast day (one day later than we are all expecting). I think this is unlikely, but it is a possibility.

^^^^
Unless TVO has some really weird clock, 1 AM and 6 AM mean just that. It also means the shutdown will occur when most people are asleep and not miss much of the programming. I'm really struggling to try and understand how it could be anything different. Also, virtually all of TVOs service area is in one time zone. UTC does not utilize AM & PM. It's a 24 hour clock that's 5 hours ahead of EST and 4 hours ahead of EDT.

I know what he is talking about it is like a company saying they will give you a raise at the end of the year, it could be calender year or the end of the fiscal year which could be which ever month they use like march. I'm pretty sure that they will be talking calender so the masses don't have as much confusion.