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post #226 of 241 (permalink) Old 2017-04-16, 02:19 PM
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Rabbitears has a list of the Repack channels by market size for the USA. Starting link is to Buffalo since that is a topic of discussion due to its proximity to Canadian markets.

https://www.rabbitears.info/repackch...3&owner=&sort=
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post #227 of 241 (permalink) Old 2017-04-16, 04:09 PM
 
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WBXZ is LP station and does not have any protection or status and does not appear on that list.By FCC rules they should have to move off rf 17.Same as Daystar WDTB on rf 29.
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Techinically WIVB as a licensed OTA transmission on rf 39 is going of the air.They will share WNLO bandwidth on rf 32.So it will still appear as 4.1 WIVB but with reduced bandwidth or quality as compared to now.2 HD and 1 SD on one 6 mhz channel on rf 32 WNLO current frequency.Also WNLO signal covers less area to southern tier compared to current WIVB signal.The WNLO contour is some 5 miles less.So cash for less coverage and quality.Why did they not sell WNLO and keep WIVB transmission site ?
WIVB owners Nexstar are pushing heavily for early adoption of ATSC 3. One of it's selling points is a better compression codec which will allow for multiple HD channels on the same frequency. Nexstar and Sinclair are looking to team up to do some ATSC 3 tests before the end of the year.

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Looking at Rabbit Ears page it appears that WKYC Cleveland will move to channel 19 from 17. This should prove to be interesting as OMNI in London (CJMT ?) is also broadcasting on RF 19.

I realize WKYC has substantially reduced ERP to the north, however I have a good signal from WKYC and would hate to lose reception of that station.

Will this end up like a CFPL/WOIO scenario?

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OMNI in London is moving to RF20, according to https://www.rabbitears.info/repackch...1&owner=&sort=

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post #231 of 241 (permalink) Old 2017-04-17, 03:56 PM
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Detailed Summary of Repack SCHEDULE DATES....Viewers should start Rescans on their local area's TESTING BEGIN DATE:
FCC Announces Auction Results and Sets TV Repack Deadlines ? Comm Law Center ? April 13, 2017

Search fol. FCC TEXT FILE for CALL LETTERS for one of your Local TV Stations that is being RELOCATED:
http://data.fcc.gov/download/incenti...Closing_PN.csv
Last Entry is Completion Date, Next to Last Entry is TESTING BEGIN DATE:
FACILITY_ID,CALL_SIGN,PHASE,FROM_CHANNEL,TO_CHANNEL,LINKED_I NDICATOR,PHASE_START_DATE,TESTING_BEGIN_DATE,PHASE_COMPLETIO N_DATE

OR use fol. RabbitEars Map Webpage to show each Stage until you see YOUR Area(s):
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post #232 of 241 (permalink) Old 2017-04-22, 02:11 PM
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My guess with WIVB is that they'll continue to use the transmitter in Colden since they own it and move RF32 to that tower with WNLO and Bounce.
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WIVB:WNLO

I don't think they can just move to WIVB site.They effectively sold WIVB license and coverage contour.They can only replicate WNLO coverage area.If they wanted WIVB coverage area they should have sold WNLO then WIVB would have been guaranteed a new UHF assignment.They have their 46 million.The equipment for rf 32 on Grand island is ready right now to simulcast WIVB.They did simulcast WIVB 15 years ago from WNLO site.

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I think you are wrong. I'm pretty sure they can broadcast RF32 from their Colden tower but they would likely have to alter the ERP to whatever the FCC will allow to accomodate the RF32 Frequency. Personally, I would rather them stay on the WNED tower in Grand Island with 1000KW full power and broadcast WIVB from there.
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Any chance that the WUTV signal would be less restricted into Canada with the move to RF36?
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I doubt it. You can check the antenna patterns in the FCC database.
I suspect that the reason WIVB sold it's allocation to take over its sister station is because analog channel 23 was originally a non-profit allocation, and as such had an omnidirectional pattern.
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I think the move to 36 for WUTV should be better than being on 14.

For one thing, CHCH (RF 15) will no longer cause any interference, and CHCJ on 35 should have minimal impact since it is low power.

However, CHCH could cause headaches for those trying to get WNYO, which is moving to RF 16...
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WUTV move to RF 36

Since WUTV is already at max 1000kw on rf 14,they will need more power or height on rf 36 to match existing contours.That leaves only more height to match existing contours.They will not be allowed to change antenna pattern.WNYO on Rf 16 will compete against Global Toronto on RF 17 and CHCH on RF 15 and City TV Woodstock on rf 16.

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For those of you that receive WUAB through Rogers, this will likely be the end of their carriage, since they are going to channel share with WOIO and likely will no longer be receivable OTA.
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I believe Global RF 17 is switching to another channel later in the repack schedule. Forget which channel and when. That's good here since the local TVO on 18 tends to clobber 17 in some locations. CITY moving to 16 would only make that worse.
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