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post #76 of 81 (permalink) Old 2011-02-17, 10:51 AM
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Would be predisposed..... But I don't believe anyone has ever applied for a sub-channel licence. It could be easily argued that there is no conflict. That for over-the-air viewers, no service would be duplicated,(I don't believe there is presently any Canadian music, weather, retro or sports over-the-air channels). And for cable and sat subscribers, these subchannels would not appear on their dial. They would be none the wiser, not having an antenna. Really this bit appears to be nothing more than a sop to the objections of Pelmorex.
If BDUs were prohibited from carrying the sub-channel, this would be true, but it is unlikely to be the case. If it was, I am not sure if a profitable business case could be made for Canadian broadcasters to have a sub-channel that isn't carried by any BDUs.
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Then the CRTC would need to make a ruling on whether subchannels qualify for mandatory carriage and/or simsubs and/or negotiated FFC. If it's a yes, broadcasters might decide to start adding subchannels. If not, I doubt they would bother.

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Then the CRTC would need to make a ruling on whether subchannels qualify for mandatory carriage and/or simsubs and/or negotiated FFC. If it's a yes, broadcasters might decide to start adding subchannels. If not, I doubt they would bother.
For mandatory carriage and/or simsubs the CRTC has said they would consider it on a case by case basis. There three categories of BDU carriage (with various sub options):
  • Mandatory Carriage
  • Optional Carriage
  • Prohibited Carriage
Only in that last case could I see the "concerns of Pelmorex and others" not being applicable. In the other two cases, the channel could be competing with other cable channels. Having said that, I am not convinced that this competition is a bad thing.
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I live in a small Northern Ontario area that used to have a decent number of analog TV channels. We still have two analog channels and one digital. We used to have more but they disappeared? when they were switched to Digital. I would like them to use the Sub channels so we could regain the channels we lost like CBC English and French, TVO etc. The channels I recieve from USA added major networks to their subchannels in my area. Canada should do the same.
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Robert Canadian sub channels not likely to happen.With TV service providers and broadcasters owned by the same groups ,there is no profit in providing OTA.I suspect you will lose those analog signals you now have too.Your politicians expect you to pay to watch Canadian stations.

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Never mind that broadcasters aren't interested, the CRTC will not allow it. Existing OTA services are not allowed to share channels, they must be on their own channel. New services are allowed on sub-channels but broadcasters are more interested in shutting down towers to save costs, not expanding OTA services to generate revenue. Any new services are going on cable because collecting fees from subscribers generates more income than OTA.
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