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post #1 of 33 (permalink) Old 2014-06-16, 08:18 AM Thread Starter
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Upgrade or Replace the iHDD on 9865 (NextBox 3.0)

is it possible to replace the hard drive with SSD for 9865?
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post #2 of 33 (permalink) Old 2014-06-16, 09:41 AM
 
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I would assume you could.. its a SATA drive inside.

Though the 9865 is a 1tb drive though.. so unless you got a lot of $$, would be costly to put a 1tb SSD in there

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I see you've been experimenting with new iHDDs in the 8642, as indicated in the thread below:

Adding Larger Internal HDD to Rogers 8642 PVR - Read Post 1 - Page 12 - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

So far we haven't had any discussions regarding updating the iHDD on the 9865, so I've started this thread for the topic. I don't believe many will care at this point since the 9865 has a 1TB iHDD and it's usually pretty quiet (although obviously not as quiet as an SSD). If you do experiment with the 9865, please post your results here.

The threads on the 8300 and later the 8642 were started because early units had 160 GB iHDDs which were barely adequate for some people and certainly not for heavy users. Also, as those units became 3-4 years old, more people who owned their units started having HDD failures. The 9865 is less than a year old, has a 1TB iHDD and many people probably rent-to-own, hence the lack of activity so far on the topic...

eHDDs for the 8642 and 9865 are already being discussed in the following thread:

Rogers 8642 & 9865 HD PVR External SATA Drive discussion - See Post 1 First - Page 13 - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

Now that the 9865 utilizes "media shrink" you can store about 1.6X as much as before (approximately 200-250 hours total), so very few people will need a larger internal or an external HDD.

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post #4 of 33 (permalink) Old 2014-06-17, 12:38 PM Thread Starter
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latest endurance test implies to avoid samsung SSD: http://techreport.com/review/26523/t...o-a-petabyte/2
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post #5 of 33 (permalink) Old 2014-06-25, 01:37 PM
 
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I'm not sure why you are singling out Samsung. The same article also says...

1) They all exceeded their endurance specifications early on, successfully writing hundreds of terabytes without issue. That's a heck of a lot of data, and certainly more than most folks will write in the lifetimes of their drives.

2) 2 other drives died before the lower-end Samsung did.

3) A higher-end Samsung drive is soldiering on.

If one really wants to follow the endurance test closer, here is the series of articles from the beginning.

Intro - http://techreport.com/review/24841/i...nce-experiment
22TB - http://techreport.com/review/25320/t...nt-22tb-update
200TB - http://techreport.com/review/25559/t...t-200tb-update
300TB - http://techreport.com/review/25681/t...ntion-at-300tb
500TB - http://techreport.com/review/25889/t...t-500tb-update
600TB - http://techreport.com/review/26058/t...on-after-600tb
1PB (1000TB) - http://techreport.com/review/26523/t...-to-a-petabyte

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new samsung 850 pro with 10 year warranty and 150TB write will be another story:http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/647...iew/index.html
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My Nextbox 3.0 (Cisco 9865) HDD failed a couple weeks ago and I'm happy to report that I've been able to teardown the unit and replace the drive without issue.

I'll break down my steps should anyone else wish / need to replace the drive as I did. The overall time from start to finish was around 60-75 minutes.
You'll need a Torx 10 and Torx 15 sized security screwdriver. I used the Husky multibit screwdriver set from Home Depot (~$16).
Plastic spudger or other soft flat pry tool to get the exterior case off.
Any off the shelf 1TB SATA drive. I purchased the Western Digital Blue for $73.00.

-The exterior of the unit has two Torx 10 sized screws on the left and right side, remove these
-Flip unit upside down where you will see two black plastic latches holding the lid in place. Use the plastic spudger to lift both and then slide the top case off.
-You'll now have the main unit exposed. You'll see the main electronics are covered by a safety plate (something the 8642HD does not have). There are now 8 additional screws which will need removal. Six on the top plate and two on either side.
-Once the screws are removed, use the spudger tool to lightly spry the metal clasps holding that plate in place. Lift it off gently.
-The electronics to the whole unit will now be accessible.
-Use the Torx 10 screw bit to unscrew the four golden screws holding the hard drive plate in place.
-Gently remove the main power/sata coupler from the drive before lifting out
-You'll now have the hard drive removed from the unit, but still attached to the support cage
-Use the Torx 15 to remove the last four screws and remove the drive.

Now follow the steps in reverse installing your new drive. As Cisco uses a proprietary hard drive formatting, you do not need to preformat the drive.

Once you've got everything back together you'll need to reconnect it to power, HDMI and cable in. This part takes around 20 minutes so you'll need to be patient.

The unit will boot back up and see a new drive. On the LCD screen HDDF will be lit up -- meaning the unit will format the drive. You'll then see cd## as it formats and downloads to update the unit. My unit rebooted about 3 times throughout the process and then eventually displayed the current time. After turning the unit back on, I was informed it was no longer authorized and had to call Rogers to re-authorize the unit. I'm guessing the HDD may store some auth data. Maybe it was just my unit - either way, it'll be your longest step if necessary...waiting on hold.

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Great information to have for when I finally buy my rent-to-own 9865. Was the hdd you replaced also a WD Blue?
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post #9 of 33 (permalink) Old 2016-12-05, 08:35 PM
 
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I replaced with a WD Black 1TB and working fine. Has Anybody tried larger of different hard Drive?

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or a SSD? 1tb SSDs are a bit expensive still though and I doubt the extra speed is necessary.


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What's the largest drive size - 3 T ?

What is the maximum size drive that the HD PVr handle? I have a spare 3T WD Red that just came off my NAS and was wondering if the size is too large for the unit. Any ideas please?

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I believe you can put it in and it will be formatted to the maximum, which I believe is 2TB (on the 9865), but since no one has done it on this forum, that has not been confirmed.

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If you got money than it's not a problem.
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post #14 of 33 (permalink) Old 2017-03-28, 12:08 PM
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Hi Paulis,

How is your repair working out now a few months later? Based on your post I am considering doing the same. I purchased a used Nextbox 3.0 9685 on Kijiji last week and it is riddled with issues. After my second factory reset it is stuck on boot and Rogers is saying the signal etc is great. Also did you install the 7200RPM WD blue or 5400?

Thanks.
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The original drives were WD Blue 7200RPM.
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