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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 2017-08-01, 05:43 PM Thread Starter
 
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Small C-Band Dish Wanted

I want to get back to playing with FTA. I have done a lot with Ku-band dishes in past but I would like to try C-band for a change. I need something that can be rolled out of a garage, oriented manually (no rotator) for playing and then be rolled back into the garage at the end of the day. I think I could manage about a 5-foot dish or so.

I understand the compromise of using a dish this small on C-band. But it would still be more interesting to me than re-visiting Ku-band which I understand has even fewer satellites than a few years ago when I was active.

Short of buying all new, does anybody know where in the greater Toronto area I might find a suitable C-band dish, preferably on a hummingbird budget?

OTA: Sony digital TV, Clearstream 2V@7' high, 10dB line amp; FTA: New 1.2-metre Ku-band dish.
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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 2017-08-02, 01:04 PM
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Have you checked your local scrapyard? You might be lucky and find one that isn't to banged up and have more fun trying to get it working than one that is already good to go. You'll get more experience with it especially if you are going to roll it back and forth each time you use it.

My favorite channel on FTA is AZTECA TV channel 13 on can't remember what bird. Lots of eye candy!

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post #3 of 13 (permalink) Old 2017-08-02, 05:33 PM Thread Starter
 
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No I haven't checked the scrap yards but it is a good suggestion. If I had more free time I'd do that. I see there is a nice 10-footer advertised locally free for the taking. But that is too large for my situation and it is on top of a tall pole which would require special removal equipment and/or ability.

OTA: Sony digital TV, Clearstream 2V@7' high, 10dB line amp; FTA: New 1.2-metre Ku-band dish.
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post #4 of 13 (permalink) Old 2017-08-02, 05:50 PM
 
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Have you looked at what Tek2000 has to offer, and the other Toronto dealer who used to be a sponsor here?

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post #5 of 13 (permalink) Old 2017-08-02, 05:56 PM Thread Starter
 
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Thanks for jogging my memory on tek2000. jorgek let me know about them a couple of weeks ago and I haven't revisited their site since I got this C-band bug. I definitely know about the other shop and over this long weekend I just may pay my first visit there since I've followed his comments and business for years.

OTA: Sony digital TV, Clearstream 2V@7' high, 10dB line amp; FTA: New 1.2-metre Ku-band dish.
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post #6 of 13 (permalink) Old 2017-08-03, 10:22 AM
 
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I was able to pick up a whole KU band system a few years ago for free just by putting an ad on Kijiji looking for someone that is looking to get rid of one. I had to dismantle it myself (about 4 hours work), but it worked out great.

@Danster - I wonder how many people watch TV Azteca and have no clue what is going on! It's funny how every guy on that channel is over 60 wearing 3-piece suits, and every woman is under 30 wearing barely any clothing. It's the future of Fox News...
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post #7 of 13 (permalink) Old 2017-08-05, 12:16 PM Thread Starter
 
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The situation seems to be changing rapidly. Tek2000 in the last few days have changed their website to show minimum C-band dish is their 8' (240 cm) model. Nothing smaller in stock now. It is too large for my situation. I may bite the bullet and just get a Ku-band dish. Better than nothing.

OTA: Sony digital TV, Clearstream 2V@7' high, 10dB line amp; FTA: New 1.2-metre Ku-band dish.
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post #8 of 13 (permalink) Old 2017-08-06, 09:42 AM Thread Starter
 
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Yesterday I contacted tek2000 to go to their store to buy a dish. But I learned they only deal via online. I didn't want that since I wanted to see/touch/feel the product and have it for the long weekend. So I went to the other store and bought a nice 1.2-metre Ku-band dish and carried it home in the van. Nothing like physical shopping. This worked out well since I've always wanted a 1.2-metre. Preliminary efforts yesterday resulted in no signals. This is the end of this thread. I will start new ones as I struggle to get my new toy working.

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post #9 of 13 (permalink) Old 2017-08-11, 02:15 AM
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Did you know you can still receive C band on that 120 cm dish? Just equip it with a good quality LNB and a scaler ring.
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post #10 of 13 (permalink) Old 2017-08-12, 11:04 PM Thread Starter
 
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This is my next project. I am studying C-band LNBs and offset dish scalar rings now.
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OTA: Sony digital TV, Clearstream 2V@7' high, 10dB line amp; FTA: New 1.2-metre Ku-band dish.
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post #11 of 13 (permalink) Old 2017-10-10, 09:59 AM
 
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Hi Cyber,
My smallest mini-bud is a 7.5 foot spun aluminum dish. Works ok but misses many of the 8psk feeds etc. I also have an 8 ft offset Channel Master dish that I use for C-band on 127W, it works fine using a C2 LNBF and stepped (offset) scaler. I find this setup can work very well for tuning a specific transponder (frequency); in other words it can be rather narrow-banded. Tuning the LNB position and scaler position on the LNBF, one can get more broad-band results at the expense of S/N over the whole band. After spending some time I managed to get all the TPs I was interested in to tune, but some without a lot of headroom. NASA TP is very stable so it locks well even at 1-2dB over the noise.
Good luck!

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post #12 of 13 (permalink) Old 2017-10-24, 01:34 PM
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Cham, try picking up Rumble TV on Galaxy 19 @ 97 degrees west.

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It's 8PSK but people get it now on 6 foot antennas.
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post #13 of 13 (permalink) Old 2017-11-18, 09:52 PM
 
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You will need to get a conical scalar ring, and aim for strong birds and dvbs channels with a fec of 3/4 would be your best bet. I played around with this stuff years ago with a cheap fortec 1.2m, I had a few channels on some birds. A quality lnbf would be a good choice maybe a PLL would be your best bet.

You should be able to find some fixed prime focus dishes from any Canadian C-band dealer, I know there are or were many sizes available not so long ago.

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