C Band going out? - Page 3 - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes

post #31 of 44 (permalink) Old 2010-08-08, 10:12 PM
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 751
Quote:
So here's a question (as I try to stay on topic): Now that SD is upgrading their STB's, what happens to the old 505's & 530's? Could they be theoretically used by Skyvision in much the same way they look to be using old 401's?
i've asked the question to mike
technically it's doable after a master reset to point the receivr to W5 nad download the firmware to do 4DTV but
he said that motorolla had an agreement with shaw direct not to authorise the shaw direct receivers on 4DTV so technically it.s doable but motorolla would not authorise them
gretzky is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #32 of 44 (permalink) Old 2010-08-09, 08:26 AM
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: SK
Posts: 478
I was thinking less of 4DTV (which is for all intents and purposes, dead) and more of a way for subscribers to access the DCII megapipes. This might be a possibility (if technically doable) simply because Moto is getting out of subscription services.
Krydor is offline  
post #33 of 44 (permalink) Old 2010-08-09, 09:05 AM
Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Kincardine ON.
Posts: 4,318
For 505/530s to be useable for C-band DC-II yes, one that posesses those receiver could not just sell them to somebody to use for C-band.

The receivers would have to be collected by Shaw or their agents, then shipped en-masse to a refurbisment centre, where they would get re-flashed for firmware duty, and their serial/UA numbers moved from Shaw's database to the C-band one, then shipped off to C-band equipment distributors.

As well, a C-band compatible firmware would need written for that platform, as the original 4DTV software will not work on it.
classicsat is online now  
post #34 of 44 (permalink) Old 2010-08-09, 09:13 AM
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: SK
Posts: 478
So, it is feasible for accessing the DCII megapipe, then? In the next few months, there will be plenty of 530's & 505's becoming doorstops. I know that the firmware won't work.
Krydor is offline  
post #35 of 44 (permalink) Old 2010-08-10, 03:53 AM
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 751
it's feasible on the 400 serie (and maybe the 301)i have a dsr 401 which would probably take the software from the W5 sat after a master reset but it would be doubtfull that the 505-530s would work as classicsat told no software been written for it
gretzky is offline  
post #36 of 44 (permalink) Old 2010-08-10, 09:26 AM
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: SK
Posts: 478
I really have no desire to subscribe to W5. It's the same system used for little dishes, only with a 6 foot BUD, less selection and no HD.

Too bad it is no longer worth developing a good C-Band system for more than just hobbyists.
Krydor is offline  
post #37 of 44 (permalink) Old 2010-08-10, 09:52 AM
Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Kincardine ON.
Posts: 4,318
I never said it was feasable, I just said what would have to be done to get the 505/530 units to actually work on C-band.

Besides, since they will work fine as Standard Def boxes on Shaw Direct, there is no real incentive for Shaw to collect them et al.

Getting a Starchoice DSR401 to take a W5 software load is the half of it. The receiver will need activated by a W5 provider, and they will not activate a receiver still on the Shaw database. That is except to get fixed/open key programming any EMM provider can receive.
classicsat is online now  
post #38 of 44 (permalink) Old 2010-08-23, 10:08 PM
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 239
dead horse

Back in the 90's there were 2.5 million c-band subscribers and today there are less than 20,000. After loosing 99.5% of the subs it's time to pull the plug.
DEV666 is offline  
post #39 of 44 (permalink) Old 2010-08-24, 01:26 AM
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 751
Quote:
Back in the 90's there were 2.5 million c-band subscribers and today there are less than 20,000. After loosing 99.5% of the subs it's time to pull the plug.
C BAND aint going anywhere
only 4DTV
C BAND has always been around and will stay for at least master channels so don't confuse both
gretzky is offline  
post #40 of 44 (permalink) Old 2010-08-24, 09:12 AM
Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Kincardine ON.
Posts: 4,318
It seems Dev is talking of 4DTV, which is the only subscription platform on C-band now, along side the W5 service.

Yes, master feeds will not go away, just the ability to subscribe to them in the home.
classicsat is online now  
post #41 of 44 (permalink) Old 2010-08-24, 10:47 AM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Lincoln.NB Pop 492,823
Posts: 6,036
Ok that's it, I'll play dumb. What is that W5? Is it a satelitte or something?

Home Theatre: Yamaha HTR-6190, Klipsch Speakers, SANYO PLV-Z4, TOSHIBA HDDVD, LG BD555C, Cerwin Vega HTS12 Sub, VIP2300, XBox 360, HTPC.
Danster is offline  
post #42 of 44 (permalink) Old 2010-08-24, 04:01 PM
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 751
W5 is actually AMC 18 but is called W5 in 4dtv receivers it's actually at 105 W
gretzky is offline  
post #43 of 44 (permalink) Old 2010-08-24, 05:17 PM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Lincoln.NB Pop 492,823
Posts: 6,036
Thank you. I knew I had seen it before but somehow, it didn't register in my pea brain today.

Home Theatre: Yamaha HTR-6190, Klipsch Speakers, SANYO PLV-Z4, TOSHIBA HDDVD, LG BD555C, Cerwin Vega HTS12 Sub, VIP2300, XBox 360, HTPC.
Danster is offline  
post #44 of 44 (permalink) Old 2010-08-25, 09:20 AM
Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Kincardine ON.
Posts: 4,318
W5 is a pay DCII from satellite called that in the 4DTV, and on C-band. It is basically reselling parts of the HITS-QT service, to customers with Motorola DSR410s sold through Skyvision, and likely American 4DTV receivers.
classicsat is online now  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome