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post #1 of 60 (permalink) Old 2010-06-14, 02:22 PM Thread Starter
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Kinect for Xbox 360

At the Electronic Entertainment Expo in Los Angeles (E3), Microsoft announced Kinect for Xbox 360, a controller-free gaming device that is expected to compete with Sony's upcoming Move controllers.

Formerly know by the code name Project Natal, Microsoft touts the device as superior to the competitionb because Kinect enables users to control and interact with the Xbox 360 without the need to actually touch a game controller.

The black Kinect device plugs directly into the Xbox 360. Inside the device is a camera, audio sensors, and motion-sensing technology that tracks 48 points of movement on the human body. Rather than pressing buttons or moving a controller, Kinect lets users interacts with Kinect enabled games by using gestures, spoken commands or presented objects and images.

Kinect for XBox 360 is expected to launch later this year with approximately twelve game titles.
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post #2 of 60 (permalink) Old 2010-06-14, 02:37 PM
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This wow factor of this sounds cool, especially if it can recognize you and load your profile/data. That being said I don't think this will appeal to me from an in-game experience, I guess I'm just old fashioned...
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Launches November 4, 2010 in the US. Worldwide in the holiday season.

Also it was announced ESPN is coming to Xbox Live (Gold members) for free. Who knows if we will get it in Canada.
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I'm disappointed in what I've seen so far. The tech is cool, but the games are all casual. That's not neccesarily a bad thing, but I'd like to see something included for core gamers. The Wii already has the casual market covered. Do Grandma and Grandpa want a second game console to wave their arms at? Not likely. The core gamers might want something to add a bit of casual play to their Xbox 360, but if this isn't priced significantly less than a Wii I think it will be a tough sell. It's also interesting that they didn't mention a price. Maybe they're waiting to see what Nintendo does and how Sony prices the Move.
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Apparently Gamestop did an oops and posted the price for Kinect (as reported on several tech blogs). Price was listed at $149 US. Likely higher here. I had little interest to begin with but at that price I'm out for sure.
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The timing is excellent to capitalise on the holiday season, though. If Sony can't meet the same time frame, MS stands to take back their prior market position.

+1 to Uber's comment --- They better have a title to appeal to their core audience. I don't think they stand to get any new business from casual gamers who want a motion controller. They would just buy a Wii for less money and no monthly fee.
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post #7 of 60 (permalink) Old 2010-06-14, 05:47 PM
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Big article in today's USAT. Great potential for MS.

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I agree that there is great potential. I think that's why so many people seem disappointed with what MS showed at E3. The casual stuff certainly has a market, but nobody in that market is at E3 or followng news about E3. They won't hear about it until they see advertisements or their gaming friends mention it. Microsoft should have done something to get their audience excited so that they would tell their friends about it. If any of my non-gamer friends were to ask me about it, I would either say "Get a Wii" or "You've already got a Wii, just use that." The technology is somewhat new, but the applications they're showing for it are hardly ground breaking.
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"We've established ourselves as a strong No. 2," said Dennis Durkin, chief operating officer of Microsoft's video game business. He called the launch of Kinect an inflection point for Xbox, adding "we're not content with being No. 2 any more."
Nobody can catch Nintendo but staying ahead of Sony won't be a shocker:
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I don't totally get it. Would a casual gamer who's into the Wii want to pay $299 for a console and an extra $149 for the peripheral you need to make it casual??

If anything, it would only appeal to current 360 owners. I might end up getting it just because I need something casual at home. I don't have a Wii and don't want one. I have a 360 and PS3 for serious gaming. Kids are too young for the controls, so it's nice to have something casual available.

But, I'll make my choice based on the Move vs Kinect. I guess Move will have better games, but then you need so many expensive controllers for a group to play.
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They had nothing "wow" to show off at E3 which is disappointing. Unless they can pull off some really cool tricks with the Kinect I can see it failing. It needs to have full XMB integration including being able to turn off/on the system with a gesture imo.

In general I get a bad vibe. MS seems to be very careful about how close they let people get to it like they don't want you to see the man behind the curtain. Let's see what Sony shows with the Move. I expect controllers being thrust into the hands of the audience.
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I think the real moment of truth will come out once independent reviewers get to try this in real-world spaces, not the huge demo spaces we've seen so far.

If it truly needs four metres to be be fully utilised, that's not going to fit your typical teen bedroom or even modest family room.

As far as the technology goes, I get the fact that it recognises 48 nodes on the human body, but what about other objects? Like the fretboard of a guitar, or the end of a rifle?
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I would like to see more of the casual games for the Xbox - if this works as shown - I would sell my wii. More kids friendly, family friendly games would be a bonus. I like the idea of using it for video playback as well - that is a 2nd big use for our Xbox. Now - let me hold a stick from the yard to play "cops and robbers" or COD with Kinect- that would sell me right there.

One of the biggest issues for Canada with all the new features coming to Xbox - is that we don't get them - Netflix -etc. Hopefully we don't miss out portions with Kinect as well.

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check out the official xbox website,
some good video of it,

looks cool, but I think as far as price point, I can't see a casual buying this and a 360 over a wii,

as a current 360 owner, I can for sure see myself buying 1 these,
even if its just for casual use,

it might not be there yet, but I can see this as being a big push in a different direction of gaming that the wii started

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Retailers have begun listing Kinect games and they are priced at $60 each. The listings for Kinect show it for $150 and do not mention any bundled games. If Microsoft really isn't bundling any games, then that makes the cost $210 to get the hardware and one game assuming you already have an Xbox 360. That's the same cost as a Wii console with two games. If this is all correct, Microsoft will have a really hard time convincing the casual audience to purchase it. I also have to wonder how many poeple would pay $60 for Kinect Joy Ride.
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