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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 2010-01-19, 03:01 PM Thread Starter
 
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Double sided discs

Just picked up Bourne Identity and Supremacy (" No Ultimatum" in stock yet)
at my local FS during my lunch break.All these BD's are double sided,with the DVD version on the other side. I've just read that sometimes these dics have problems playing.Has anyone had a chance to watch any one of them yet ??
Any problems ??

On another note,I was dissapointed the store didn't have the third movie in stock on the first day these BD's became available.I was told their shipment hadn't arrived yet. Hmm....

Can't wait to get home and watch these movies.I could never find the
box set...

I'll pick up Ultimatum tomorrow.I have the next 4 days off to enjoy them !

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post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 2010-01-19, 04:55 PM
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you can go to Amazon UK. The box set is really cheap. I bought the boxset + The Island BD for only CDN$45 after shipping.

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^ You...bought...The Island...on...BD? You have seen it eh? Looks to me like they ran out of budget for the CGI about 2/3 through. Kinda funny that, it's so obvious, I'd be interested to hear how it looks in HD at home.

Do you know if all the extras on the UK Bourne BD set are playable in our "area"? I've had it on my .uk wishlist for a while, and I know I've asked this before, but now I forget the answer... Thanks. I really do not want to buy dual-sided discs if I don't have to, especially since I already have the DVDs. [Edit: playing the features is no prob, it is only very occasionally that sometimes the extras can't be played here without area-free BDP. So it has been said. I don't know why...and it may not even be true, have just seen it mentioned the odd time for an Area B title. Maybe the reviewer's player/display could not handle an extra's non-HD video format (mine can), and it was that incompatibility rather than an Area issue. I don't see how different parts of a BD could have different Area coding, it's determined at disc startup.]

Rumor has it the Ultimatum combo disc had production problems and those sent to stores already were not to be put on sale. In the U.S. that is. Could be a rumor started by 2-sided disc haters (like me).
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post #4 of 22 (permalink) Old 2010-01-19, 05:27 PM
 
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I have never liked double sided discs. I would rather have two. BTW you may want to edit the thread title.
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post #5 of 22 (permalink) Old 2010-01-19, 05:40 PM
 
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I was wondering about those double sided discs if you have to turn them over manually or will it record on both sides of the discs automatically. Anyone know this? Thanks in advance.
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BTW, in some parts of the world they already have BD/DVD hybrids. This is a single-sided disc, no need for this gluing BD and DVD together nonsense. If you look in the Setup of certain brands of BD players we can buy here (some Sony for sure), you will see an option to select which layer(s) of the BD/DVD hybrid to play (like for CD or SACD layer on a SACD/CD hybrid). A DVD player would only "see" the DVD layer(s) of the hybrid.
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^ You...bought...The Island...on...BD? You have seen it eh? Looks to me like they ran out of budget for the CGI about 2/3 through. Kinda funny that, it's so obvious, I'd be interested to hear how it looks in HD at home.

Do you know if all the extras on the UK Bourne BD set are playable in our "area"? I've had it on my .uk wishlist for a while, and I know I've asked this before, but now I forget the answer... Thanks. I really do not want to buy dual-sided discs if I don't have to, especially since I already have the DVDs.
Yup, have seen the movie And I like the campy feel of it. However, for around CDN$16 including shipping, I got nothing to lose, I still can re-sell it for the same amount on eBay if I don't like the transfer.

I know for sure that everything from UK will play in my "area" because I use BDP-09 and BDP-23, both of them play NTSC and PAL content (as long as the disc is open region -- which they are) and my displays (PRO-1150, PRO-111 and PT-AE3000U) are all PAL and NTSC compatible too.

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I think I'l watch The Island DVD (I have the good U.S. version disc) in celebration of your BD purchase...been a while.

Thanks re the UK Bourne BD. I'm pretty sure that's what other people said, but I can't find the emails... I'm also pretty sure the non-HD extras that reviewers couldn't play on some UK BDs was because their display/player couldn't handle the 50Hz format (or whatever, UK-specific) that sometimes shows up. [I've also had the UK 2-BD GWTW in my sights for a while, it sounds pretty good even though I'm not a huge fan by any means...gotta make the UK order "worthwhile".]
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in UK (actually most of the world) use PAL at 50 Hz and Japan/NA use NTSC (different types of NTSC but they differ only in the IRE settings, IIRC).

If you are into concerts, there a lots of British/European/Australian concert BDs that can be purchased so very affordably at Amazon UK as opposed to the US or CA counterpart.

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^ Yeah, I have some all-region DVD players, just not for BD. Never mind the 50Hz/PAL stuff that *may* show up in the ported non-1080p/24 extras, but I remember reading some displays do not handle *exact* 24Hz stuff properly either (we're OK with Pio). What we call 24Hz is actually 23.976Hz, yet in UK-sourced stuff it's usually exactly 24Hz...that tiny diff sends some displays into hysterics in 24 mode (so you don't use it).

Maybe somebody can get back on proper topic later tonight, once they've had a chance to watch a Bourne flipper. I think I'll go for the UK "regular" BDs, but I wouldn't be adverse to the flippers *if* they were very cheap for the whole set in BD. I mean, you need the whole set. This isn't like The Matrix or something (also cheap for the UK BD set).
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Quick note: Bource Ultimatum BD has a release date of Jan 26 in Canada. Not sure why there is a one week delay.

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^ The rumor wasn't so much a rumor then. They are delaying sales in the U.S. too. Some people did get copies from the places that sell before release day.

My UK set has shipped already...I should have just got them there long ago but I thought the regular set would get a price drop in NA when the new formats were announced. Bourne Trilogy is #1 selling BD at UK amazon, bet it's mostly North Americans doing that since the Bourne series has been available individually there in regular BDs for quite a while i.e. they're not getting flippers.

I don't "hate" flippers, just do not prefer them mainly from a handling perspective. I have found DVD-18s/flippers to be somewhat more problematical than single-sided discs...I do recall problems with Dune, Casino, Frighteners offhand but once I got a good copy they seem to last OK i.e. glue didn't deteriorate. Universal admitted they had problems with the original glue with HD-DVD combos.
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I just grabbed Supremacy from BB (got it pricematched). Finally, my Bourne collection is complete! I have the other two on HD-DVD.
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Flipper dics

There is much speculation that when you buy the bourne discs in about a weeks time they will be flipper discs blue ray/dvd
I understand that you have to buy the discs individually to get the flippers as opposed to a three pak.
This is shades of hd/dvd
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There is much speculation that when you buy the bourne discs in about a weeks time they will be flipper discs blue ray/dvd
Not to be rude, but since this entire thread was about these discs being double sided, why would you state there is speculation about this? Not to mention the discs are not out in a week...they are out already.

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