TV Tuner Cards For HTPC Discussion - Page 19 - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums
 1Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes

post #271 of 948 (permalink) Old 2008-06-18, 07:17 PM
Premium Supporter
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: South shore of Montreal
Posts: 325
If you don't mind using an Ethernet tuner, you could get an HD Homerun (made by Silicondust).

It's ATSC and QAM (cable) only...

Have a nice day!

Nick
Knight is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #272 of 948 (permalink) Old 2008-06-19, 12:56 PM
OTA Forum Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Delta, BC (96Av x 116St)
Posts: 24,353
I hope you can find one that is ATSC only to suit your needs, but I think NTSC capabilities will still be with us for quite a long time after the changeovers due to the fact that many remote, low power OTA repeaters/translators will remain using analogue NTSC as far as the authorities have decided. Hauppauge and AverMedia have PCI-E cards now but they're ATSC/NTSC.
stampeder is offline  
post #273 of 948 (permalink) Old 2008-06-19, 01:39 PM
Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Whitby
Posts: 2,815
Also, why would you need ATSC only?
If you have a combo card, and don't need NTSC, don't use it.
Keep in mind you can use it to tune a VCR, for example, to transfer your VHS collection to digital.
recneps77 is offline  
post #274 of 948 (permalink) Old 2008-06-19, 02:08 PM
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Richmond, B.C.
Posts: 459
You're right, I was only wondering if there was some benefit to having an ATSC only card. Maybe for pricing reasons, maybe for performance. Sounds like it's just as cost effective to get a combo card.
toybox is offline  
post #275 of 948 (permalink) Old 2008-06-20, 12:59 PM
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Wainfleet (Welland)
Posts: 15
Dvico Fusion HDTV7 is a dual tuner ATSC/QAM/NTSC card. It does have analogue capabilities but does not have a hardware MPEG-2 hardware encoder for the analogue, so they may have shaved a few dollars off because of they. I've seen it for $139US. It has good reviews and worth looking into if yo need 2 more tuners.

Hauppauge has the HVR-1250 which is a single tuner ATSC/QAM/NTSC card also without the MPEG-2 hardware encoder to save cost. Its around $60.
tscott is offline  
post #276 of 948 (permalink) Old 2008-06-20, 05:48 PM
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Richmond, B.C.
Posts: 459
I'll check into that one...thanks!
toybox is offline  
post #277 of 948 (permalink) Old 2008-06-20, 11:55 PM
Q
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Oakville
Posts: 3,974
The hauppauge 1800 is PCI E but it is ATSC and NTSC. I don't think there is an advantage other than cost savings.

Hauppauge is supposed to be releasing a new dual ATSC/NTSC card shortly model 2250.
Q is offline  
post #278 of 948 (permalink) Old 2008-06-23, 04:01 PM
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Richmond, B.C.
Posts: 459
cool. But I bet there will be a premium cost for a new device, which I'm trying to avoid.

Although maybe the price of the older models will drop, once it comes out though.
toybox is offline  
post #279 of 948 (permalink) Old 2008-07-09, 08:50 AM
Q
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Oakville
Posts: 3,974
hauppauge has finally released the 2250. I have been waiting for this card ever since they announced it in Feb. '08.

Was reported as selling for $129 but on hauppauge's web store it is $149.

Haven't found any CDN retailers that have it yet. I will be buying this card for sure before september.
Q is offline  
post #280 of 948 (permalink) Old 2008-07-09, 11:28 AM
OTA Forum Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Delta, BC (96Av x 116St)
Posts: 24,353
Thanks Q, that 2250 looks like a great unit!

http://www.hauppauge.com/site/produc...a_hvr2250.html

I see that ATSC and Clear QAM are hardware encoded to MPEG-2, so for those wanting a pure transport stream this new card might not be the answer. I'm going to wait to see how long Linux drivers will take, unless they're already available. Hauppauge is pretty good about Linux support.
stampeder is offline  
post #281 of 948 (permalink) Old 2008-07-09, 11:42 AM
Q
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Oakville
Posts: 3,974
I have the 1600 and its says the same thing in the write up about recording ATSC in high quality MPEG2 but from what I can tell it does no re-encoding. It just records the stream as mpeg2 ts file.
Q is offline  
post #282 of 948 (permalink) Old 2008-07-09, 11:49 AM
OTA Forum Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: North Delta, BC (96Av x 116St)
Posts: 24,353
Thanks for clarifying that. As my old Socket 939 mobos die off and I go with the latest mobos it'll be necessary for me to replace my PCI cards with ones like these, so its nice to see options now available.
stampeder is offline  
post #283 of 948 (permalink) Old 2008-07-09, 11:59 AM
Q
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Oakville
Posts: 3,974
I am waiting for reviews of card performance. I am especially interested in the quality of the single coax connection which has an internal splitter for dual ATSC.
Q is offline  
post #284 of 948 (permalink) Old 2008-07-09, 06:57 PM
Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Whitby
Posts: 2,815
I read the info there, and did not get the impression of digital being encoded - analog, yes, though.
Not sure what you saw, but this shows that it is in fact not encoded, but a direct transfer (its a huge waste to encode it anyway, unless it were mpeg4 encoding...)

Quote:
Record analog cable TV shows to your PC's hard disk with our built-in high quality MPEG-2 hardware encoder. You can also record high definition digital ATSC and clear QAM digital cable TV to disk in the original digital quality.
recneps77 is offline  
post #285 of 948 (permalink) Old 2008-07-28, 09:18 PM
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto
Posts: 910
HVR-1250

I just bought one -

Initial impression : this is a great deal for $70 all in - remote/software/S-video to RCA adapter/PCI-E interface and even included a half-height bracket! There is no IR blaster...probably expected as it is 'Soft PVR' for SD content.

The reception is about the same as my Sapphire Theatrix ATI650. The WinTV6 works well but the video quality is borderline ok with minor occasional stuttering. Recorded files are in MPEG2 format...playable by PowerDVD6 and WMP11, but strangely only skippable by WinTV6. There doesn't appear to be an EPG guide. I can see myself use the WinTV/Scheduler for ATSC recording but not viewing.

WatchHDTV works as good as my ATI650, same video quality and no stuttering. The tuner was recognized as a 885 or something.

I am quite happy with the purchase. Be able to finally use a PCI-E x1 slot is just for kicks. I will most likely use GBPVR or some free front end because there is a remote included.

The system it is in :
WinXP Pro SP2
Gigabyte GA-G33M-S2H with Intel E1240@2.4GHz
OCZ 2GB 800MHz SLI RAM
Galaxy 8400GS 256MB video card.
Slim SFF half height case with PSU.

LG55LW5000/DenonAVR791/MirageOMD5+Nanosat+MM8/ClearStream2/CM7778+3414
OptomaHD33/YamahaRXV1075/KEF3005/Velo15"
PPL4GOLF is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome