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post #1 of 55 (permalink) Old 2016-12-21, 12:13 PM Thread Starter
 
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CRTC rules that internet is an essential service

Big day !

http://http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/crtc-internet-essential-service-1.3906664
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post #2 of 55 (permalink) Old 2016-12-21, 06:27 PM
 
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They did it, the CRTC has now declared internet an essential service.

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With today's ruling, CRTC has set new targets for internet service providers to offer customers in all parts of the country download speeds of at least 50 megabits per second (Mbps) and upload speeds of at least 10 Mbps, and to also offer the option of unlimited data.
Thats better upload speed I get with Shaw in an urban area!

Let the whining from the providers begin.
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That's also more than I currently pay for because I don't need more (30/5). I could certainly get more, but I'm not willing to pay more.

It'll be interesting to see what sort of pricing would be associated with this minimum.

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Hallelujah !! Best discission the CRTC every made! Should have been introduced 5 years ago....

I am in the 18% who do not have access to wired internet nor speeds anywhere 50 / 10. - and I'm 1 hour north of Toronto! My only concern is the final plan could be as far away as 15 years. I hope they mean 15 years for communities that are way up north....(selfish)

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"The CRTC said 82 per cent of Canadians currently have access to broadband Internet services with download speeds of at least 50 Mbps and upload speeds of 10 Mbps. It says it expects such services to be available to 90 per cent of households by the end of 2021 and to the remaining 10 per cent of households within 10 to 15 years.

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The quote says only that subscribers are to be offered those speeds, not that they will be forced to take them. Increasing the the availability of 50/10 internet to 90% of Canadians will be relatively cheap and easy. Getting it to 100% will be very difficult. Advanced in wireless technology may help but nothing like that is ever 100%.
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So who pays for the "fund"?
I think this is just so much BS. They get to determine underserved and get to administer millions. Empire building at its finest.
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So who pays for the "fund"?
I think this is just so much BS. They get to determine underserved and get to administer millions. Empire building at its finest.
"To achieve that, the CRTC will require providers pay into a fund that's set to grow to $750 million over five years. The companies will be able to dip into that fund to help pay for the infrastructure needed to extend high-speed service to areas where it is not currently available.

The fund is similar to one that subsidized the expansion of local landline telephone service in years past. Providers used to pay 0.53 per cent of their revenues, excluding broadband, into that fund. Now they'll pay the same rate on all revenues, including broadband.

Blais said competition and the broader base of revenues for the fund will keep the cost from being passed on to consumers. Small providers will also be able to access the fund to build infrastructure."


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Empire building at its finest.
The phone system has long been run with urban areas subsidizing more remote areas, so that everyone could have this essential service called a "telephone". This is simply an extension of that. Or is telecom only supposed to be just for those who live in the city?

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Rural Telecom services were mandated for public Health and Safety reasons. I don't think High Speed Internet is necessary for that just yet.

I'm not against the new mandate but how far should it go? If I chose to live out in some remote location, how much should the consumer be “taxed” to provide Internet access to me? There must be limits.

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Blais said competition and the broader base of revenues for the fund will keep the cost from being passed on to consumers.
He has said that before and been proven wrong. Remember the LPIF that was added right to the bottom of the bill by a lot of companies and included in price increases by the others.

The telephone tax will gradually be transferred to fund broadband as well.
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Thats better upload speed I get with Shaw in an urban area!
FYI Shaw can offer 150 down 10 up in 95%+ of it's footprint already, so the availability is already there. I feel this is a great move to assist with the availability for those who can't get 50/10.

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Count me in with those who think this is a bad idea.

If you choose to live in a remote area then you should bear the cost/inconvenience of not having high speed internet.

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FYI Shaw can offer 150 down 10 up in 95%+ of it's footprint already, so the availability is already there. I feel this is a great move to assist with the availability for those who can't get 50/10.
I meant my Bb50 plan only has 5 up. Should have been clearer.
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Count me in with those who think this is a bad idea.

If you choose to live in a remote area then you should bear the cost/inconvenience of not having high speed internet.
The people who supply the food to our nation; the people who work our mines; the people who work our forests; the people who protect our boarders; and many other Canadians who must work in rural areas need modern internet.
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