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post #76 of 162 (permalink) Old 2015-12-06, 02:43 PM
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Looks like CKRY FM (Country 105) in Calgary is broadcasting an HD Radio stream now. While I don't have an HD Radio-capable receiver, my Grundig G8 shows a signal of 17dBu / 5dB when tuned to 105.3 or 104.9Mhz, and the static is louder. Adjacent channels to other stations show the expected 0dBu/0dB signal strength. This was tested in my basement though, which is why those numbers seem a bit low. That said, when I checked a few weeks ago, this wasn't happening.

Anyone in Calgary have an HD Radio to confirm?

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post #77 of 162 (permalink) Old 2015-12-07, 03:36 AM
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Also it will be interesting to see whether CKRY carries a second feed, and what that station might be if they do.
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More than likely it would be CHQR (AM770) as that's also owned by Corus Entertainment.

Again, this is speculation as I haven't actually heard how an analogue radio treats the noise from an HD stream before, but even on my G5 radio it seems something is different with the adjacent frequencies of CKRY vs other FM stations.

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post #79 of 162 (permalink) Old 2015-12-07, 10:24 PM Thread Starter
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I still have that Personal Telecom DR-101 that was used for DAB reception.

On it's FM section, the digital "racket" can easily be discerned on each side of CING-FM Hamilton's HD signal, so that's two radios that I can determine the racket on. The DR-101, while scanning, will stop on the racket. It's signal meter shows full scale (because I'm close to the CHCH tower).

The Grundig Traveler II G8 also stops on the racket.

To give someone an idea of the signal strengths found, with the Grundig CING-FM will be 60dBu on it's main FM signal. The racket 46dBu.

Keep in mind those range of values when tuning weaker stations.

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The G8 does indeed stop at the adjacent frequencies. Moving the radio around in my basement, I saw signals up to 22dBu on these frequencies as well. Tuning to 105.1 I could get up to 40dBu in the same spot

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post #81 of 162 (permalink) Old 2015-12-08, 02:47 AM
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I have checked my HD Radio and indeed Country 105 is broadcasting in HD. There is currently 1 sub channel at the moment...



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Edit: Guess I should have looked above! Yes, it was me who posted the question on Reddit about it.

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post #83 of 162 (permalink) Old 2015-12-08, 12:15 PM
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CKRY HD2 is QR77

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Also it will be interesting to see whether CKRY carries a second feed, and what that station might be if they do.
It is indeed QR77.

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post #84 of 162 (permalink) Old 2015-12-08, 02:41 PM
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Lol. small world!! Indeed it is QR77 (News Talk 770).. Here is a screenshot of it on my other HD Radio. No drops when driving from Signal Hill to downtown.

http://i.imgur.com/qzwacph.jpg

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Now I want an HD Radio! I listen to Country 105 a fair bit.

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post #86 of 162 (permalink) Old 2016-01-07, 09:17 PM Thread Starter
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2 HD Radio Stations in the Hammer

We now have 2 HD Radio stations in Hamilton.

CING-FM 95.3MHz with HD1 (copy of FM content) and HD2 AM640 Toronto

CHKX-FM 94.7MHz with HD1 (copy of FM content) and HD2 Wave94.7 Smooth Jazz.

Now... Who's next... :-)

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So a little about CHKX's HD signal... It doesn't come in well throughout the GTA, not as clear as CING's HD signal. In fact, it is much more difficult to get the station's HD signal, almost as hard as getting a Buffalo radio station's HD signal, at least here within the Toronto vicinity. Yes, CING does have a stronger overall signal, but CHKX does have peak signal of 100KW. Main reasons why it is harder to get CHKX's HD signal is due to the interference from sister station, CKGE in Oshawa (on 94.9), which comes in quite clear in Toronto. CKGE's signal doesn't seem to be much impacted by the HD signal, but on the other hand, WNED from Buffalo in 94.5, is now barely receivable. I do wonder how this might end up impacting WNED's donations from Torontonians who now have to turn to the internet to hear them, as their FM signal is much harder to recieve because of CHKX's HD operations.
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^^^ Not only that, but what gets me is the re-broadcasting of an internet only radio station, wave.fm. Yes, it was originally on that frequency as wave94.7 but this raises two interesting questions.

95.3MHz has HD2 as AM640, technically an out of market station.
94.7MHz has HD2 as wave.fm, technically an internet only station.

And the sound quality on both frequencies of their HD1's and HD2's is horrid.

Meanwhile, in Toronto, CJSA, 101.3MHz has 4 HD's and they sound fine.

This is starting to sound like my listening to DAB all over again... :-(

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Hamiltons HD stations

95.3 transmitter antenna is near the top of CHCH tower while 94.7 antenna is much lower.

Attic CM 4248 at Buffalo,M4 at Buffalo.VHF yagis at Toronto .
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Actually, if I remember correctly, the 94.7MHz antenna is on a tower to the east of the CHCH tower, which can be seen from the east side of our building, whereas the CHCH tower can be seen from the west side of our building.

On my side (west), 95.3MHz is stronger with next to no multipath, whereas on the east side 94.7MHz is stronger with no multipath. When you reverse the equation, each station is moderately affected by multipath.

My comments as to sound quality dealt with the HD digital signals, not the analogue ones.

HD Radio seems to do quite well with moderate multipath that normally fuzzies up the top end of the audio spectrum.

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