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post #31 of 162 (permalink) Old 2015-09-09, 10:37 PM Thread Starter
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CING-FM Hamilton 95.3MHz in HD Radio again

As the message title says...

CING-FM on 95.3MHz is transmitting in HD Radio again.

But a wrinkle has been added.

There is an HD2, of AM640 Toronto, but with a delay of a couple of minutes.

As to the HD1 audio, it's bit clearer, sans the top end distortion and the noise floor has gone. Otherwise, the same processed sound as the FM signal.

The HD2 is in mono.

Interesting

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post #32 of 162 (permalink) Old 2015-10-06, 02:08 PM
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Press Release: Talk Radio AM640 and 95.3 Fresh Radio Now Offered on HD Radio - Corus Entertainment

To find out more about HD Radio on Talk Radio AM640, visit www.640toronto.com/hd.
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post #33 of 162 (permalink) Old 2015-10-06, 04:58 PM
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I am all for simulcasting an AM signal on HD2 but I thought the CRTC has said no to this use.AM740 should have used this instead of 96.7 mess.CBC should have used this in the first place and supported the format.Save a dozen repeaters and put radio one on 94.1 HD2 and keep AM 740 for its massive coverage.Zoomer onto 99.1 as its music.

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What's that 96.7 mess you are talking about? Curious....
I'm all for AM simulcast using HD2,3,4.. For instance, CHFI should Simulcast 680 news. CKFM should simulcast 1010 CFRB...92.5 should simulcast 590, etc...

I do find the 640 feed a bit metallic with lots of room for improvement. I can be mono, but should sound clear at the very least without the need to be high fidelity.
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As the message title says...

CING-FM on 95.3MHz is transmitting in HD Radio again.

But a wrinkle has been added.

There is an HD2, of AM640 Toronto, but with a delay of a couple of minutes.

As to the HD1 audio, it's bit clearer, sans the top end distortion and the noise floor has gone. Otherwise, the same processed sound as the FM signal.

The HD2 is in mono.

Interesting

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That explains the bars! At first I thought it was interference from something else.
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post #36 of 162 (permalink) Old 2015-10-07, 09:16 AM Thread Starter
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CIHR-FM Woodstock in HD!

A broadcast engineer friend of mine had an extra promo ticket to see a Shakespeare play in Stratford yesterday.

That opportunity gave me another area to search for stations using HD Radio. Took along my palm sized Insignia HD Radio.

Up popped CIHR-FM on 104.7MHz. It had an HD1 stream only, as well as the usual FM signal. Sound was very good in HD.

So to recap... I'm aware of 3 stations now...

1) CJSA 101.3MHz Toronto with 4 HD streams. (this station is multicultural in nature, and low power)

2) CING-FM 95.3MHz Hamilton with 2 HD streams. HD1 (digital version of the FM feed) and HD2 of AM640 Toronto.

3) CIHR-FM 104.7MHz Woodstock with an HD1 stream of the FM program. Sound is well done.

While traveling on the bus in Hamilton, the HD1 sound is a real improvement without the fluttering and other effects of FM. The improved sound is a welcomed addition too.

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post #37 of 162 (permalink) Old 2015-10-07, 09:22 AM Thread Starter
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@robman50a , is the pip at 96.1 WJYE? That one is in HD as well, so if a tropo happens before the winter sets in (October can have some good tropo at times) you might watch that one too if it peaks in strength. :-)

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post #38 of 162 (permalink) Old 2015-10-07, 11:27 AM
 
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@CamDAB Yes 96.1 FM here is WJYE. You are correct. Now that I can see the signals by using the SDR, there are a lot of IBOC signals out there. Mostly state side though but I thought I saw another Canadian one and it may have been CBC Radio. Will have to double check to conform that though.
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Wysiwyg the 96.7 mess is the interference between Chym fm Kitchener and Zoomer both on 96.7 in west GTA area.

Attic CM 4248 at Buffalo,M4 at Buffalo.VHF yagis at Toronto .
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well it seems that there are 4 stations in Canada running HD Radio.

The three listed on this site
Local HD Radio Stations | MyHDRadio

Plus the station in Hamilton.

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post #41 of 162 (permalink) Old 2015-10-09, 06:52 PM Thread Starter
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^^^^ Interesting Link... Thanks... I didn't know about the Markham multicultural station at 105.9MHz.

However, they transposed CIHR into CHIR... Oooops... :-)

So, tentatively:

CING-FM 95.3MHz Hamilton HD1-2
CIHR-FM 104.7MHz Woodstock HD1
CFMS 105.9MHz Markham HD1
CJSA 101.3MHz Toronto. HD1-4

I attempted to verify the CFMS callsign on their web site but their advertising covered over most of their mailing info.... how bizarre.... However, I just checked Wikipedia and it's listed there, so the CFMS callsign appears to be correct.

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post #42 of 162 (permalink) Old 2015-10-11, 12:42 AM
 
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It's interesting to be able to do an A-B comparison between an AM signal and an FM signal with the same source material from the same broadcaster. What a difference!!
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That same difference existed when CBC switched from 740AM to 99.1FM.

And it also holds true comparing 640AM and 95.3MHz HD2.

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post #44 of 162 (permalink) Old 2015-10-11, 03:19 PM
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If there is room on the FM dial, I'm all in favour of AM stations simulcasting there, or in the case of HD Radio occupying an FM sub-channel.

Having said that, it is still good to have AM available when travelling in rural areas where the FM signals just don't carry. That doesn't apply to 740AM in Toronto, of course!
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Thumbs up Corus Entertainment First Multi-Market Radio Operator to Launch HD Radio

This was located on the hdradio.com page.
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Corus Entertainment First Multi-Market Radio Operator to Launch HD Radio

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