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post #136 of 160 (permalink) Old 2017-03-28, 02:49 PM Thread Starter
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900 CHML on HD3 via 95.3MHz is working again.

Now for The Grand to fix their HD3 signal on 94.7MHz....

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post #137 of 160 (permalink) Old 2017-04-19, 05:33 PM Thread Starter
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As of today, HD3 "92.9 The Grand" on 94.7MHz continues to be not listenable here in Hamilton. HD1 and HD2 are fine.

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post #138 of 160 (permalink) Old 2017-06-04, 08:53 PM
 
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About Ibiqity sidebands and CHKX 94.7 Hamilton (antenna is Stoney Creek)

William at the "DX Info Center" sent some very valuable information to me.

All over the US, as predicted, the sidebands of Ibiqity stations is playing havoc with near neighbours - such as our cherished PBS WNED 94.5 in Buffalo. He sent a 'scope shot showing the horror or the sidebands.

This can not be corrected with a notch filter on 94.7 because the sidebands miss the notch as much as does the station its 94.5.

He suggested I turn my 10 foot yagi antenna so that Stoney Creek is at a 90-degree null. Based on the polar chart for a big yagi, i thought this just might work.

Yesterday, "Dr. Antenna" was at my house (mostly substituting a TV HD DB4e for previous ChannelMaster 422X and much improvement). I can't praise Chris (the good doctor) and Carlisle, his colleague enough. They are truly competent professionals and nice to deal with too.

From my home, the CN Tower, PBS FM and other Buffalo stations are all in a straight line. Stoney Creek maybe 20 degrees off (and roughly 40 miles with WNED-FM twice that). To summarize, we couldn't find an angle for the yagi that gathered enough signal from 94.5 and also discriminated against 94.7 to any useful degree. Sad, sad, sad.

Despite using a golden-age Sony tuner (SA50ES) with a narrow IF setting and an antenna attenuator switch (and capable of getting an OK quality sound from WNED), just zilch from WNED FM now. The 94.7 Ibiqity sidebands sit squarely on top of 94.5.

The essential problems are: Ibiqity causes problems to adjacent stations and federal (and international) regulators are not getting off their backsides to help.

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They don't have to do anything. As long as stations aren't being interfered with in their local broadcast area, the regulators don't see a need to intervene. As was stated countless times, your reception of WNED is of zero concern to Industry Canada, and even if an HD station was wrecking havok with fringe / DX reception of another stations the FCC isn't going to do much.

Now if an HD station was interfering with a "local" station, then it would be looked at.

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Let's say your real-politic description is accurate and correctly describes a regime where you can broadcast just like you can pee just on your side of the swimming pool.

But the fact is that WNED-HD interfered with CHKX reception (in the US and Canada) over the years and now vice versa for people in the US trying to receive WNED.

So regulators ought to be working together, even with nationalist leaders in charge. And despite your cynicism, I believe they do. WNED told me they were constrained by presumably Canadian regulators (or through the influence of Canadian authorities) to limit their penetration of the Toronto market in deference to CBC at 94.1.

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Industry Canada only considers local station interference.So this means Hamilton stations in Hamilton area only.Oshawa station means Oshawa are market only.No consideration for Buffalo except if a Canadian station interferes in Buffalo area.At my house in Mississauga Hamiltons 94.7 HD signal took out both 94.9 Oshawa and 94.5 Buffalo. 94.9 identifies itself as GTAs Rock station but the signal is interfered with by Hamiltons HD signal.The FM dial in GTA is total mess because Industry Canada keeps approving more stations.MY nickname for them is Interference Canada! Ben it could be worse look at 106.5 which had both a Toronto and Buffalo station on same frequency and only 45 miles apart with near Omni patterns.

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I am going to write to the relevant authorities about this problem.

I hope others will want to write too?

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Ooooops. I wrote a nice letter but I can't figure out who to write to in Canada or the US.... esp email. Or should I take a hint that they don't want to hear from us?

Anybody know?

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post #144 of 160 (permalink) Old 2017-06-06, 03:50 PM Thread Starter
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Irrespective of the interference discussions, could someone with an HD Radio tune in CHKX 94.7MHz HD3 and let me know what happens?

Here, HD3 plays for about a half to 2 seconds and goes silent.

I've contacted them to no avail on this problem.

I would like to know if it's a radio version issue or is a problem that is more widespread amongst radio brands.

If it plays correctly, that's important too.

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CFGL 105.7 FM out of Montreal appears to be experimenting with HD radio. I was able to pick up their signal in HD from Vermont for a good week, but it seems that the HD signal isn't currently being broadcast - at least for the last couple of days.
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post #146 of 160 (permalink) Old 2017-06-29, 01:39 PM
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CKFM and CHUM-FM are both broadcasting in HD Radio in Toronto. TSN 1050 on CHUM-FM HD2 and Newstalk 1010 on CKFM HD2. It's nice to see that they were finally able to install the HD Radio system on the CN Tower. Hopefully the other major stations broadcasting from the CN Tower will follow Bell's direction and convert to HD.
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post #148 of 160 (permalink) Old 2017-07-08, 12:41 PM
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Noticed this when I was in the car yesterday. Reception was good. Only thing questionable is that CHUM-FM isn't also simulcasting TSN 1150 as well.

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post #149 of 160 (permalink) Old 2017-07-08, 03:31 PM Thread Starter
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^^^^ Bell Media, if they wanted, would put 1150 on CKLH-FM 102.9MHz as they are both Bell Media properties and both are in Hamilton, their target audience. However, no HD signal on that station as of yet.

Side note: HD3 on 94.7MHz CHKX-FM still refuses to decode. Grrrrrrr....

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post #150 of 160 (permalink) Old 2017-07-27, 09:02 AM
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Another HD Radio has popped up in the GTA, CJKX-FM (Ajax with a booster from downtown TO) is now on HD Radio, with Wave.fm on HD-2 (same as sister CHKX's HD operations) and CKCO-AM on HD-3. A question here, is the HD signal only from the main Ajax transmitter, meaning folks in downtown don't get the HD signal (unless the booster in downtown is also transmitting in HD)? I live in York Region, so I get a mix of both the Ajax signal and the booster from downtown. Also, there are implications towards degraded signals with WMSX-FM and CFJB-FM, which once came in nicely around my area but has since been very static-y.
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