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post #1 of 208 (permalink) Old 2011-01-31, 10:36 AM Thread Starter
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FibeTV without Internet Add-on? Now Possible (2012.04 - Via Retentions?)

Has anyone been able to order FibeTV without their internet service bundled?
As a former BES'er I wanted to move to TekSavvy for internet and Bell FibeTV for TV only.

I know it's technically possible but has anyone been able to get It? I was told by the rep that sent me an email to 'upgrade' to Bell Fibe TV that I had to agree to the Fibe 6 service to be able to talk about if I could get FibeTV without internet.

*Update: I cancelled my phone service today Jan 31. With the UBB and caps the internet service part is getting me down. I like the TV but I want to get my own dam internet on my terms please!

Thanks for any help.

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post #2 of 208 (permalink) Old 2011-01-31, 04:36 PM
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From the Bell web site:

Bell Fibe TV is delivered over Canada’s most advanced network along with Bell Fibe Internet. Both services are required, so when you sign up for Fibe TV, you’re also signing up for great Internet.

You can't have Fibe TV and a third-party internet on the same line since they use the same frequencies.

I think TekSavvy's new prices and caps are about the same as Bell's bundled prices.

If you currently have BES you may be interested in this migration thread.
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The CRTC recently heard arguments for this. Bell says they can't separate FibeTV and Fibe Internet, which was largely proven to be hogwash. We're still waiting on the CRTC's decision on it.

I would honestly wait to sign anything with bell, as the UBB stuff has gained the attention of the government. Look for some changes in the next month.

Keep in mind, "Fibe" internet has nothing to do with "Fibre". There is no fibre optic service from bell to the home.
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So I can not seperate my home phone line or internet all because of bogus technical poopie. The fact is, it is possible to break out all the services with the technology and systems Bell has today. I am not looking to use the line for 'other internet' I want my internet through TekSavvy cable service and the standard home phone switch is a simple computer billing issue not a technical one. I feel trapped by Bell. I like the BES TV service but not liking how Bell is handling this forced bundling.
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Sigurdson has a point; its not because they have to setup an internet service at your home to deliver the TV service that they should also force you to purchase a "data plan". Bell is an old company with a very, very antiquated business philosiphy ... I found this out the hard way! If anything, they should just hand out a basic high speed service included in the base fee. If you think that this sounds ridiculous, then I'm sorry to tell you that you are one of the dinosaurs. And we all can't wait for you to die off...

Infrastructure monopoly and blatant collusion is what allows the industry to get away with such practices. Open things up a little, and you'd all be amazed at what service they could provide - and at what prices - while remaining extremely profitable. In fact, I think it would even amaze Bell executives ...

Hey, Bell ! It's the 21st century already ...
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The fact is it costs no more to deliver FibeTV and any internet above and beyond the Fibe TV service. I dont want any low level internet from Bell.
I pay handsomely for Fibe TV and that should cover what is needed pay for delivery it via IPTV over a local network Bell's network. Why force me to buy some other internet plan to that is in no way related to the delivery of Fibe TV.

I want to use the fact that there is not an Infrastructure monopoly to my advantage as consumer. I want only what is possible.
Fibe TV
Teksavvy Cable internet and
Yak Home phone non VoIP

Is this so hard?
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There is no technical reason why you couldn't have Fibe TV and any cable internet. I guess Bell takes the position that since they provide internet access to deliver IPTV, it makes sense to bundle the 2 services. There are technical reasons why you cannot run IPTV, third-party DSL internet and third-party phone services on the same line.

BTW UBB is coming to cable internet in July.
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I agree! I currently have fibe TV + fibe 7. But I hate fibe 7 quotas. When I signed my contract it was for 30 dollars of max over usage, then they went to 60 dollars to finally bill 1.5 dollar each GB...

So I went for unlimited cable and the only thing I am waiting is to be able to get rid of fibe 7!
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^The maximum internet cost over and above your d/l is 60$;
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The programs they provide like Facebook and now Twitter use the Internet connection.
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Its 3 months I have fibe tv and fibe 7, and very satisfied, I have bundled my land phone, Internet and tv with Bell, and I save around $20. a month plus I have more features now than I had before. Plus the first month was free.

Above all I can record, different channels of what I am watching which I could not do before with Videotron.

Because I have the trio, I get the discounts therefore fibe-7 cost me $37 + tax


Don't forget fibe-tv and internet are both on the same line, its the modem-router that splits the tv from the internet. I think bell wants to sell both, but if you want the tv or the internet eventually Bell with have to come with a different modem-router where it will allow one one to pass.
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Bell has invested millions of $'s to deploy Fibe TV. You need a min of 25M download so lots of fibre and remote equipment had to be installed within 900 meteres of the subscribers house. A direct benefit is they now have a high speed internet pipe to the customer. Bundling internet is just a smart way of recovering some of the capital costs.
As with anything else, the market will ultimately dictate pricing...

When I buy my gas from Petro Can they always "bundle" the prov & fed taxes in the price. I wish I had the option to pay for just the gas
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When I buy my gas from Petro Can they always "bundle" the prov & fed taxes in the price. I wish I had the option to pay for just the gas
Being charged for the delivery system is the sticking point here, not the applicable taxes. I don't get charged a monthly fee for the dish that's stuck to my home; why should I get charged for the wires to my house?
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Eventually Bell will realize that there are potential clientele that would need on the TV not the both. Think of the old folks buildings, or elderly people that only need tv not both. I think eventually they offer only tv.
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Thats the big sticking point with me for the fact that you have to have the internet to get the tv, again just like many have mentioned its more or less a cash grab, even worse is some have been told it is required to work (and from bell's standards yes) (but "NOT" in a techinical sense) I am certain that this is another punch in the bag for third party providers to have less customers, which to me is wrong, (Big Bad Old Bell) (What happend to our right to have choice and not have to bundle?) It's something that should be seriously addressed by the CRTC (but again anyone can be told what to do with the right amount of money I suppose) cough cough...Bell
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