A DPP44 switch will also give you four outputs however requires the lnb(s) to be DPP twin, DP singles, DP duals, DP twin or a DP quad. Just like the DP34 it only requires two lines into the switch to get 82 and 91.
This switch just like the DPP twin allows you to use a DPP separator(s) for dual tuner receivers. Therefore it is possible to have 4 receivers regardless if they are dual tuner. Another advantage of DPP technology is that legacy receivers work as long as you have one DP or DPP compliant receiver hooked up.
This receiver requires a power adaptor to be hooked up on port one. Unfortunatly the DPP44 is the most expensive switch and are very rare to find in Canada for sale. It will cost you around $100 or more after shipping, duty etc.
This switch has four inputs from four different orbital locations if that matters to you.
I havve a DPP twin or Leagcy Quad LNB.. I think that is the same thing
Hi all, I have a Legacy quad LNB which I think is the same as a DPP twin. I need help setting this up. I cant catch any signal I can catch both sats 91/82 seperate with a single LNB so pointing aint an issue. But once I take off the Single LNB and replace it for the quad I lose signal. Now I think my problem is I don't have a DISH VIDEOPATH POWER INSERTER running from the cable in the house to my receiver. Is this all I need to get this to work. Its my understanding that you need this to power the quad lnb because my receiver isn't strong enough. Please help.
Have a look at posts 560 onwards where I replied to you.
They are NOT the same thing at all. Neither require a separate Power Inserter to work. From what we talked about on that thread it sounds like you have a defective LNBF or port on it.
Pinza, the picture you posted is the quad that I have. I'm not sure that its defective because my neighbour has the exact same quad and I tried his and got nothing as well. Could it be because the lnb is not getting enough power from the recicever and i do need the power inserter to get this to work. I seen some posts where people have said they would get no signal without it.
My understanding and I admit it has been a long time since I used a Legacy Quad is that they are powered by the Receivers and need no Power Inserters.
Ask your neighbor if HE has a Power Inserter and as you have tried his Quad on your Dish, try your Quad on his Dish, at least then you will know if yours works.
Also see how many receivers he has connected, maybe it requires power from more than 1 receiver to work but I doubt it.
EDIT: Why are you considering the Quad.? Why not look at another alternative, let me know what models and how many of each and I might be able to point you in a better direction.
I was planning on setting up multiple tv's in the home, and wanted to avoid running less cables. So if I went out and got a sw44 switch and ran 2 single lnb's 1 for 91 and 1 for 82 I could get what I want correct? I do have at home 2 single dual lnb's where I could run 4 lines. My only problem is that I would have to connect my sw44 switch in my attic thats where all my cables meet. My only other question is does the sw44 have to be pluged in to hydro?? They have a SW44 switch at my local source for 75 bucks is that to expensive?
The Attic if great for the SW44, it keeps it away from the weather. Yes it requires Power but that can be fed from behind any one of the receivers using the Power Inserter. The only stipulation is, that Power Inserter MUST be on the line that feeds for Output Port #1 at the SW44.
Check this out;
EDIT;
$75 is pretty good, they are $150 from Bell, plus in the event of a failure down the road, it will be MUCH easier to get another SW44 that a Legacy Quad LNBF.
Pinza that back plate isn't designed to hold SW44!!! It's for two SW21s brother!!! The SW44 is HEAVY and to hold it like that with one screw is HAYWIRE and POOR IMHO!!! Why would anyone place the SW44 at the dish location anyway in the first place!!!
Actually that backplate is the EXACT one supplied by Bell TV for mounting an SW44 at the Dish. I know you do not have X-Ray eyes but there is a 2nd screw at the top right holding the SW44 quite firmly on the bracket.
I also have to add that the diagram is also wrong in terms of what port is what... the have the ports to LNBs and receivers backwards (left to right) as well as where port 1 is relative to the ground screw (up to down)... READ THE STICKER/LABEL and not that HORRIBLE diagram!!!
That STUPID HORRIBLE dyslexic diagram has screw many a many installers... ROTFL
PS I guess back in the factory in China the decided to orientate the stickers/labels upside down/right side up on different revisions? It's weird as they seem to want the heat to rise up in a certain orientation that if stickered like that diagram would be backwards... STRANGE
Yes you can cascade up to three is what they say. Just put coax utilizing the same numbered input ports you are using on first DPP44 switch to the ports on the right side where is says "To Additional Switch", those coax cables then go to the input side of the second switch. You still need to use another power inserter on the first output port of the second switch just like you do with the first switch.
Or do as Pinza says lol, and he is right there is a diagram right on the switch as well.
I moved in Nov of last year and I explained to the installer that I had a DPP 44 & the corresponding LNB. He told me at that time that they (Vu Point) had just started to carry the DPP LNB's. He didnt understand however why they didnt have the DPP seperator of the DPP Switch. Nevertheless it saved me a trip back up on the roof to swap it out once he left.
I wanted to pass this along to those of you thinking about going this route.
You can install up to 12 9241 dual tuner (HD PVR) receivers with only one cable per receiver by using a DDP LNBF, 3x DPP 44 switches trunked together, 12 DPP separators and 1 dish 51cm with only 2 cables from the dish to the switches.
I don't know what Bell is waiting to put these switches availlable to customers in canada.
Instead, Bell choosed to bring a DPP quad LNBF and are on their way to Canada but limited to 4 output and we still need 4 cables from the dish.
If customer want more than 4 9241 receivers we will need to switch to legacy technology and pass from 1 cable per receiver to 2 cables per receivers and will also require an additionnal dish and more cables outside.
@2CaP, the DPP Separator was made available at the same time at the DPP Twin LNBF. Bell still do not intend to provide a DPP switch, they are as DaveX1 says, bringing in a DPP Quad LNBF.
Bell doesn't want to provide DPP44 because they are affraid of the power supply. A lot of service calls has been generated by the power supply/power inserter on the sw44. But the DPP44 has a different power inserter and the cable is built in. Only the power cable can be disconnected from the electrical outlet.
We have tried to replace our legacy dual LNBs and switches with a DPP Twin LNB and DPP44 switch. We need to connect 9241 (with separator), 6131 and 5900 receivers.
Twin LNB provided by Bell, DPP44 purchased on eBay. Both brand new.
Check switch on the 9241 ran 38 tests instead of the 4 expected. And no success of course. Tried reseting the receiver and check switch: same result. Tried switching the 2 inputs on the DPP44: same result.
The Bell tech was not willing to spend more time, since he had never seen a DPP44 and was convinced this could not work... No comment. He left right away, but I kept the equipment.
What could we have done wrong? Any order required for the steps? Any suggestions? I am going to retry by myself. With this forum, I became as knowledged if not more than these subcontracting tech guys!
Yes, power inserter as you describe. Does it matter which LNB output goes to which switch input? We tried ports 1-2 (and reverse) but did not try the other ports.
I've never tried it, but does the power inserter of a SW44 do the same thing of a DPP44 power inserter? Could be a faulty power inserter, or maybe the switch.
You can also confirm that the DPP Twin LNB is fine by connecting the ports directly to the receivers and testing, if it counts any higher than 3, than its either a line or a port. If you had four lines coming from your dish, than maybe its the wrong line connected. is the dpp44 outside?
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