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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 2011-11-21, 09:47 AM Thread Starter
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Sony Bravia LED LCD

Anyone have any experience with a Bravia LED LCD?

I was looking at the Bravia EX500 series as I've seen them come down in price lately.

It doesn't have 3d (which I'm fine with) , but my concern is the frequency is only 60hz vs 120 on a lot of other tv's - i'm concerned this might affect gaming or sports?
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post #2 of 28 (permalink) Old 2011-11-22, 07:02 PM
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I would stay away from any 60Hz set. The next tv I get will be at least 120 Hz.

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post #3 of 28 (permalink) Old 2011-11-23, 12:52 AM
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Some confusion here, maybe.

The EX500 series is LCD only - not LED. Also this series is 120hz!
One reason for the price going down may be related to this being last years model which was continued for 2011
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post #4 of 28 (permalink) Old 2011-11-23, 10:49 AM Thread Starter
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You are right, i meant the EX521.

I wasn't sure if having a 60 vs 120 hz is going to impact watching a movie or video games.

The difference between the 521 and 620 (120hz) seems to be about $200
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post #5 of 28 (permalink) Old 2011-11-23, 09:24 PM
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I have 2


the 621 is slightly upgraded and newer.
I enjoy these tv's.

Bought the ex720 for 1699 jan 2011.
the ex621 for 1499 July 2011.

The 621 goes for about 1300 now.

Reasonably priced and a very nice tv. Im sure you wont regret it.
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I have the Sony 55 inch EX500. Awesome picture. You can't go wrong with this model.

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post #7 of 28 (permalink) Old 2011-11-28, 07:34 PM Thread Starter
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60hz vs 120hz (and other HD questions)

I'm looking at getting a new LED LCD TV to replace my aging 42" Grand Wega LCD.

I've been looking at a Bravia LED, but unsure if it really matters if I choose a 120 Hz over a 60 hz?

I do like to play video games on my current LCD,and do watch sports and would like to get a blu-ray player.

The price difference between the two formats is approx $150 currently, so unsure if I will truly notice a difference.

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post #8 of 28 (permalink) Old 2011-11-29, 12:10 PM
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I think you'll notice a difference--though it's not always positive. At 120Hz sometimes titles/text flicker, and motion seems a little unrealistic (almost like a video game), though sometimes it works. Best to check it out in store--if they have 60/120Hz TVs playing the same source side by side, you can really see the difference.
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post #9 of 28 (permalink) Old 2011-11-29, 12:12 PM
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You'll notice a difference. Whether you like it or not is a different story. If you search the forum, you'll find lots of threads discussing the differences.

120 hz TVs look....wrong.

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post #10 of 28 (permalink) Old 2011-11-29, 12:24 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks, found a few old threads on the topic.
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post #11 of 28 (permalink) Old 2011-11-29, 04:46 PM
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I know that 120hz gives blu rays that soap opera effect but does it also give regular HD satelite/cable the same effect? I recently purchased a Samsung 40 inch led but I am now seeing a Samsung LCD 120hz for the same price and debating whether to make a switch. Although I don't care for the soap opera effect (I know you can customize your settings) I would like to see how 120hz affects hockey. My LED seems to handle fast motion pretty good but I am also sitting about 12-13 feet away.
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post #12 of 28 (permalink) Old 2011-11-29, 11:04 PM
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I've got a 46" Samsung with 120 hz and hockey is so gorgeous. I've also gotten used to "soap opera effect" or whatever you wanna call it. I tweaked my settings a bit, but I spend most of the time just marveling at the picture to even notice anymore.
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post #13 of 28 (permalink) Old 2011-11-30, 04:05 PM
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Myth #5: A Faster Refresh Rate Is Always Better

Faster is better, but only up to a certain point, after which faster just becomes redundant. A TV with a 120Hz refresh rate looks smoother and leaves fewer motion artifacts than a TV with a 60Hz refresh rate. A TV with a 240Hz refresh rate, on the other hand, doesn’t show much of a difference over a 120Hz set. The picture is seamless in both cases. It’s pushing the upper-limits of what the naked eye can really see.

In our opinion, 120Hz is the sweet spot. It’s noticeably smoother than 60Hz and avoids the 240Hz price premium. Maybe (just maybe) some sports fanatics would be happier with a 240Hz set for fast-moving games, but they’d only notice a difference in a few plays per game, but they’d probably be better off spending the extra money on beer.

One exception: 3D TVs. The refresh rate of a 3D TV is effectively cut in half, because frames alternate from eye to eye. It’s extra important for 3D video to maintain a smooth picture; if the image looks even a little bit choppy, it’s a recipe for a headache. Hertz count in the third dimension.

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post #14 of 28 (permalink) Old 2011-11-30, 05:43 PM
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Went back today and looked at the 40 inch lcd Sammy 120hz tv. Nice crisp picture. I had a chance to play with the automotion settings while Avatar was playing. I have been a lcd owner for 4 years and this is the first time I have seen ghosting, mostly around the characters. Don't know if the was casued by the 120 hz or the 120 hz accentuates what was already there. The sales person said if he had a chocse he'd keep the 60hz LED over the 120HZ lcd and thats what I am going to do.
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post #15 of 28 (permalink) Old 2011-12-01, 10:21 AM Thread Starter
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LED TV's & Uniformity Issues


I am debating between a Sony Bravia EX621 and a Samsung UN46D6000 LED TV.

Both seem to have great pictures, however in a lot of reviews (particulary on the samsung models), there seems to be complaints about "Flashlighting" or light bleeding from the corners of the sets during dark scenes.

Is this something that is inherant due to the Edge lit tv technology, and are there certain brands that seem to have less an issue.

I am looking at LED over CCFL LCD's mainly for size issues in my condo, as well as my room gets a lot of light during the day.

Any suggetions/input?
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