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post #1 of 1514 (permalink) Old 2003-03-01, 09:44 PM Thread Starter
 
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OTA Results for the Niagara Peninsula in Ontario, including the area from Grimsby east to Niagara-On-The-Lake, down to Fort Erie, westward to Dunnville, and back north to Grimsby. This is an open discussion forum, but keep your posts on topic.
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post #2 of 1514 (permalink) Old 2005-01-22, 09:51 AM
 
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OTA: Port Colborne, Ontario

Here's a list of stations and signal strength I get in Port Colborn(About 20 minutes south west of Niagara Falls)

I'm using an ATI HDTV wonder and a RCA 30dB indoor antenna.

29-1 WUTV-HD 61-64% (FOX HDTV)
23-1 WIVB-HD 85-88% (CBS HDTV)
23-2 WIVB Doppler 85-88% (CBS Doppler)
23-3 WNLO Digital 85-88% (UPN)
2-1 WGRZ-D 71-74% (NBC HDTV)
7-1 WKBW-HD 80-82% (ABC HDTV)
7-2 WKBW-SD 82-85% (ABC SDTV)
4-1 WIVD-HD 85-88% (CBS HDTV
4-2 WIVD Radar 85% (CBS Doppler)
4-3 WNLO SD 80-85% (UPN)
43-1 WNED-HD 91% (PBS HDTV)
43-2 WNED-SD 91% (PBS SDTV)
43-3 Think B 91% (Kids network)

Every now in then I get 14-1 and 33-1 I know that 33-1 is NBC but I have no idea what 14-1 is as it never comes in.

Reception is acceptable and watchable on all the stations I mentioned
Fox is VERY picky. Anywhere else and I get from 0-66%

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post #3 of 1514 (permalink) Old 2005-01-22, 04:12 PM
 
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OTA: Port Colborne, Ontario

If you get a good outdoor antenna I bet you will receive Erie, Youngstown and maybe Cleveland DT channels.
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post #4 of 1514 (permalink) Old 2005-01-22, 07:29 PM
 
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Sphinx,

Her in Welland, in addition to yours I also get 15 and I also do get the WB 49 and I always also get 33.

I am using as in my signature a amplified Winegard Square Shooter.

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post #5 of 1514 (permalink) Old 2005-02-16, 09:49 AM
 
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Hi,

These are the channels I receive; all of which are well in the 80 percentile for signal strength.

Network Call Sign Channels
FOX WUTV-DT 29.1
UPN WNLO-DT 23.1, 23.2, 23.3
NBC WGRZ-DT 33.1
WB WNYO-DT 49.1, 49.2
ABC WKBW-DT 7.1, 7.2
CBS WIVB-DT 39.1, 39.2
PBS WNED-DT 17.1, 17.2, 17.3
CBC 5.1


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post #6 of 1514 (permalink) Old 2005-04-14, 12:59 PM
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I live in St. Catharines too. The problem is that Toronto and buffalo are in totally opposite direction from here. I tried to use two antennas, one for each direction. but it over lap the signal or something I couldn't get it to work. I pointed my antenna just to buffalo right now. I can receive ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, PBS and UPN. I am using the wineguard squareshooter.
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post #7 of 1514 (permalink) Old 2005-04-14, 01:00 PM
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I'm in St. Catharines and CITY 53.1 is difficult to receive.
You will get Toronto 1 at 66.1 and 15.1 without problems.

Now with a pre-amp all buffalo channels come in strong except
for NBC 33.1 and WB 34.1.

33.1 is giving me problems since UPN came on with a very
strong signal at 32.1.

And 34.1 has a weaker signal than CITY.
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post #8 of 1514 (permalink) Old 2005-04-14, 01:02 PM
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I too live in St. Catharines close to the lake. As Johnny said you should be able to receive stations from Buffalo and Toronto 1, but you will have great difficulty tuning in CITY. Acccording to their tech department they do not transmit their signal over Lake Ontario towards St. Catharines.
My OTA setup was only able to receive PBS and Toronto 1 until I installed a quality preamp
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I am using a Delhi Super Flying Arrow for UHF reception only. It is a directional antenna with high forward gain set on top of a rotor attached to my chimney. As well I ran RG11 cable to reduce loss due to a cable run of about 100 feet.
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post #9 of 1514 (permalink) Old 2005-04-14, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by sphinx
Here's a list of stations and signal strength I get in Port Colborn(About 20 minutes south west of Niagara Falls)

I'm using an ATI HDTV wonder and a RCA 30dB indoor antenna.

29-1 WUTV-HD 61-64% (FOX HDTV)
23-1 WIVB-HD 85-88% (CBS HDTV)
23-2 WIVB Doppler 85-88% (CBS Doppler)
23-3 WNLO Digital 85-88% (UPN)
2-1 WGRZ-D 71-74% (NBC HDTV)
7-1 WKBW-HD 80-82% (ABC HDTV)
7-2 WKBW-SD 82-85% (ABC SDTV)
4-1 WIVD-HD 85-88% (CBS HDTV
4-2 WIVD Radar 85% (CBS Doppler)
4-3 WNLO SD 80-85% (UPN)
43-1 WNED-HD 91% (PBS HDTV)
43-2 WNED-SD 91% (PBS SDTV)
43-3 Think B 91% (Kids network)

Every now in then I get 14-1 and 33-1 I know that 33-1 is NBC but I have no idea what 14-1 is as it never comes in.

Reception is acceptable and watchable on all the stations I mentioned
Fox is VERY picky. Anywhere else and I get from 0-66%
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post #10 of 1514 (permalink) Old 2005-04-17, 10:19 PM
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Thorold is above the escarpment, between St Catharines and Niagara Falls, "where the ships climb the mountain". Initial set up of the Samsung T451 to VHF/UHF attennas in the attic gave me the following results:
2-1 WGRZ-D
4-1 WIVB-HD
4-3 WNLO-SD
5-1 CBLT-DT
7-1 WKBW-DT
7-2 Blank
23-1 WIVB-HD
23-3 WLNO-SD
29-1 WUTV-HD
29-2 WUTV-SD
29-3 Blank
43-1 WNED-HD
43-2 WNED-SD
43-3 Think Bright -WNED
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post #11 of 1514 (permalink) Old 2005-05-27, 11:02 AM
 
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Remapping question & VHF/UHF reception in Niagara

A quick question... I'm looking at mounting a CM4228 in my attic (or possibly two CM4221's with one pointing at Toronto and one pointing at Buffalo) and I'm curious as to how this will work with channel remapping.

CBC Toronto shows up as 5-1 which is a VHF signal correct? But it was remapped from channel 20 which is UHF.

If I mount a CM4228 will I be able to pick up channels 2-12 with it? Or do I need to also mount a VHF antenna?

I am not at all interested in analog signals... just HDTV.
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post #12 of 1514 (permalink) Old 2005-05-27, 11:36 AM
 
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There are no HDTV channels on VHF in this area. Virtual channels are designed to make the transition easier. I think it just adds to the confusion. The lowest DTV channel at the moment is Fox with 14. All the Buffalo channels will be staying in the UHF band after the analog shut off.
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post #13 of 1514 (permalink) Old 2005-05-27, 12:43 PM
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Your tuner will show both the original VHF analog channels and the DTV UHF remapped ones. For instance, here in the Vancouver area we're seeing analog channel 32 as the CTV station and digital 32 as the remapped 33.1 CTV station. As I say, your tuner will show both. I agree that remapping is confusing, but it was a response to broadcasters who had invested a lot into their station "brands" over the decades and wanted to avoid having to spend the $$$ to change over.
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post #14 of 1514 (permalink) Old 2005-05-27, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by da_jonesy
If I mount a CM4228 will I be able to pick up channels 2-12 with it? Or do I need to also mount a VHF antenna?
Actually the CM4228 does a very good job with VHF High band channels (7-13) but does nothing in the 2-6 range. A good VHF-only antenna should do the trick, such as a Wade-Delhi 306. Oh ya, I forgot, you're going to try to do this in your attic...
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post #15 of 1514 (permalink) Old 2005-05-29, 09:31 AM
 
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Cool Pt. Colborne and CITY-DT difficulties

Network Call Sign Channels
FOX WUTV-DT 29.1
UPN WNLO-DT 23.1, 23.2, 23.3
NBC WGRZ-DT 33.1
WB WNYO-DT 49.1, 49.2
ABC WKBW-DT 7.1, 7.2
CBS WIVB-DT 39.1, 39.2
PBS WNED-DT 17.1, 17.2, 17.3
CBC 5.1

crispy iam in port colborne hi ..i have a old 1970s delhi uhf that i got from a
lady down the street and i cleaned it up put some stainless bolts on it and
i get all of your list and on some days i can get city tv 57 always and dt 53-1
some time ..great as city has that directional ant. i dont know what # the
ant is ....it has 3 stacks of small directors and the corner reflector and very
light......i use radio shacks pre-amp the price is right and it works ..louis
Crispy[/QUOTE]

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