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post #61 of 184 (permalink) Old 2013-07-16, 11:56 PM
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If we don't get Fox Sports 1 and continue to get Speed Channel in some form, that will likely only be temporary. I would assume once the contacts expire from the major BDU's in Canada, Speed Channel will simply not renew and the channel will disappear from Canada entirely.
Why would Fox voluntarily walk away from receiving the money they get from all the Canadian subscribers?

Now that we know Fox will continue providing Speed (or some version of it) in the US for some time and I would assume indefinitely in Australia, the post that the guy made in this thread a few months ago, saying that Fox could continue providing a version of Speed in Canada, is more plausible than it seemed at that time without this information. It would also explain the lack of response from the Canadian BDUs. From their position, probably nothing is changing, other than the "R U Faster Than a Redneck" and similar type shows will likely disappear from the version of Speed we get, hopefully to be replaced by actual motorsports.
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post #62 of 184 (permalink) Old 2013-07-17, 12:50 AM
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I predict an 8 hour loop of the aforementioned show and Dumbest Stuff on Wheels for some reason...
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post #63 of 184 (permalink) Old 2013-07-17, 03:29 AM
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Major Rate Increase Sought For FOX Sports 1

Tuesday, July 16, 2013

Sports Business Daily reported yesterday that FOX Networks will ask cable and satellite providers to pay 80 cents per month per subscriber for the newly rebranded Fox Sports 1, with carriage fees climbing to $1.50 monthly over the life of multi-year contracts.

Affiliates currently pay approximately 23 cents per month for SPEED. FOX has already inked a new deal with Comcast Cable, but major carriers Time Warner Cable, DirecTV and Dish Network have reportedly balked at the price increase.

Fox Sports 1 – formerly known as SPEED – will televise college football and basketball, NASCAR racing, UFC mixed martial arts events and sports news programs.
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post #64 of 184 (permalink) Old 2013-07-17, 10:22 AM
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Well then if the carriage fees are going to triple or quadruple, there's no way Speed's replacement will be on basic cable anymore. You'll just have to forget about it or subscribe to some additional sports package, 90% of which you wouldn't watch.
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post #65 of 184 (permalink) Old 2013-07-17, 12:30 PM
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That involves only the situation in the US, with no relevance to Canada.
Fox would not be in a position to be demanding much of anything from the Canadian BDUs, who would have no trouble just telling Fox to get lost. Fox's options for Canada are to keep providing a Speed channel, presumably the same or similar to the one they provide Australia, or walk away and get nothing.
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post #66 of 184 (permalink) Old 2013-07-18, 04:46 PM
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The announcement of a temporary watered-down US motorsports channel, combined with the existence of Aussie SPEED, makes it appear that this is what will happen (especially given the quiet nature to date of the Canadian companies affected).

When Shaw Cable applied to the CRTC to add the "Big Ten Network" (NCAA sports), this was likely done to satisfy their subscribers without adding a full "NCAA sports package" that Rogers and Bell have.
Now that Rogers also has the Big Ten Network, could Shaw once again apply for Fox Sports 1 to try and keep up with Rogers?

Even then, would the CRTC have any reason to approve it? (this assumes of course that conflicting rights issues would be blacked out).
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post #67 of 184 (permalink) Old 2013-07-18, 04:51 PM Thread Starter
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Can Shaw apply? 100%. Will there be intervening? 100% Who will they be? Rogers and Bell arguing foreign competition messing directly with their service. They will say, Shaw can launch a Sports station, no problem, but you can't import one directly.

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post #68 of 184 (permalink) Old 2013-07-18, 07:11 PM
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Would Shaw have a reasonable case against Rogers/Bell when it gets to the CRTC?
I'm not sure.

If I were to guess though I would imagine so, as Shaw would simply claim that programming with rights issues could just be blacked out.
As for the sports "talk" shows being competition, I have no idea how this would be ruled. CBS sports network has no shortage of talk shows to complement their sister networks' NFL and NCAA coverage.
The sticking point would likely be the daily highlight show hosted by former TSN hosts Jay and Dan. However, given that Canada has lost one of their daily highlight show options (with the cost cutting and subsequent integration of "the score" into the sportsnet family), perhaps this is more than enough reason to allow another highlight show from abroad (especially one that will come up much shorter on delivering the staple hockey highlights that Canadians will be seeking first).
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post #69 of 184 (permalink) Old 2013-07-18, 07:52 PM
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Also, might there be the strong potential that FOX's pre-existing relationship to supply content for Rogers Sportsnet (mostly for MLB games) could result in Rogers pressuring FOX to avoid providing Shaw with this opportunity?

I imagine this pre-existing relationship with Rogers is far more lucrative than anything they would get being a specialty channel backed by Shaw.
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post #70 of 184 (permalink) Old 2013-07-18, 09:32 PM
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Any attempt to bring FS1 into Canada will probably be shot down by the CRTC as being too competitive with existing Canadian channels.

CBS SN doesn't compete with TSN or Sportsnet only because it airs relatively low-tier programming (U.S. collegiate sports from smaller conferences and other otherwise minor events, plus talk shows and archived college football games) that wouldn't be of interest to a Canadian channel. Unfortunately, out of the gate, FS1 is a lot more competitive.
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post #71 of 184 (permalink) Old 2013-07-20, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by HarvesterOfEars View Post
If this is the programming line-up on the Australian Speed channel --

Holy crap! They get all that and we get this joke they call progamming on speed. WTF how do we always get shafted.

Speed Australia is what Speed in Canada should have been.
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post #72 of 184 (permalink) Old 2013-07-21, 11:55 AM
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Comparing Speed with Speed Australia is like comparing apples and oranges......the only thing in common is the name. Speed Australia is a composite channel showing events that in North America in many cases are on other sports channels or networks. Channels that may or may not be owned by Fox Sports. Not the same type of competition.
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post #73 of 184 (permalink) Old 2013-07-22, 04:57 AM
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You're right about the headliners like Formula 1, Indycar, Nascar. They can just black that stuff out or like do what NFL network does and show something else.

But look at all that other stuff. There's so much there that no channel in Canada shows.
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post #74 of 184 (permalink) Old 2013-07-22, 07:25 AM
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Those events may not be on anywhere in Canada, but somebody may have bought the rights. (Pure Speculation)
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post #75 of 184 (permalink) Old 2013-07-24, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by noah View Post
Also, might there be the strong potential that FOX's pre-existing relationship to supply content for Rogers Sportsnet (mostly for MLB games) could result in Rogers pressuring FOX to avoid providing Shaw with this opportunity?
Rogers have a deal with MLB, not Fox. It probably just appears that way as Fox is the RSN of most teams.

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