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post #46 of 96 (permalink) Old 2017-01-18, 06:12 PM Thread Starter
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I really don't understand why Shaw Direct doesn't just try and get Arris to make gateways for their system. Really, all that would need to be changed is the tuners and possibly the addition of built-in multi-switch to allow more than 2 recordings. It would also save a lot on software development. If both systems are running a relatively similar platform, it would make things way easier.

Bell Satellite use to be pretty good at keeping relatively current but these days both satellite companies are way behind in terms of technology.
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It would still require a board up re-design, build of sample units to write and test software, and qualify hardware of emissions and such. They just cannot take already completed hardware for cable and make it satellite compatible at the drop of a hat.

At this point, I think any traditional TV provider is at or passed peak saturation, so no real reason to innovate.
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Question Keeping Up With DISH

Bell uses DISH Network receivers. How far behind DISH are the Bell models?

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...Bell Satellite use to be pretty good at keeping relatively current but these days both satellite companies are way behind in terms of technology.
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If I'm not mistaken, they haven't introduced new models in a number of years. I believe DISH has whole-home PVR units. That type of setup is only available to Fibe customers as far as I know.
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It must be almost 5 years ago that Bell told all the Installers and Installation Companies to get ready to start putting in the Hopper and Joey Systems.

Well, there are still waiting......
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Remember that the topic is "Shaw Direct to transition to full MPEG-4." You can use the following thread to discuss Bell receivers:
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According to the updated transition plan, pretty much every local will be in HD along with the majority of specialty channels. Some channels launching this year include TMN Encore 2 HD East, MTV HD, Canal Evasion HD, Super Ecran 4 HD, Max HD and Musique Plus HD.

This is the 3rd or 4th revised plan so I expect more channels and obviously channel launches or shut downs will also change the plans too.

Shaw Direct could very well have the best HD channel lineup by 2019 with the availability of all the locals but will it even matter by then? I still wonder if Bell is going to announce something similar soon. I'd imagine a lot of their residential and commercial legacy hardware is also approaching end-of-life support too along with their MPEG-2 encoders.
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When is the new 800 series receiver going to be released? I heard that they will be skipping the 700 series.
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Here
is the thread for discussion of any potential 800 series receiver.


This thread is for discussion of conversion to a full MPEG4 service, which current hardware is fully capable of supporting, as planned.
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For those without MPEG4 compatible hardware, SD just sent out a letter offering a free HD receiver rental (no term). Fine print says it will be a refurbished rental unit and that the hardware it replaces must be decommissioned permanently.
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What did you get?

I got the letter today outlining the changes and in fine print it mentions a special discounted price for older units. Since I already have two 630s I figured there was no way that they would give me much.
They offered to switch a 505 to a 600 for $99 but were not offering a discount for a 530 still in use. So I suggested I go elsewhere for the DVR 630 and was quickly offered $50 off the price.
So I will have three DVRs and one receiver in my system. Meanwhile, I will have quite a load of decommissioned equipment going to the depot.
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post #57 of 96 (permalink) Old 2017-04-03, 04:42 PM Thread Starter
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Shaw should at the very least upgrade one receiver in the house for free and any others at a steep discount. When I had Shaw Direct and they choose to switch all the sports packages to MPEG-4, they swapped out all my older 500 series and a 300 series receiver for the DSR600 for $50 each. That was back in 2011. It's now nearly 6 years later and they are trying to swap out receivers for the very same model at $50 more than what I paid in 2011 when they were new. Same thing with the DSR630. There is no reason why they can't offer a DSR630 in the $100-$150 price range to swap out the now obsolete DSR530. This receiver isn't new and I'm sure the parts required to manufacture this unit is much cheaper than it was 6-7 years ago.
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It looks like the real reason is to free up Anik F2

Could this all be in order to free up and leave Anik F2? Could there be future plans for more internet services from that satellite on the ku band? When Shaw did not design the xKu lab to have an extended band on 111.1, like 107.3, I assumed they never had plans to place an extended ku sat at the 111.1 location, or else they could have designed the lnb so that 107.3 and 111.1 were the same, but the 111.1 side works the same as the original lnb, meaning to me that they knew that 111.1 would not have a future with Shaw Direct.

The thing that they are doing that could lose them the small part of the Canadian satellite TV market they they have now will be the snowbirds and grey market subscribers in the Southern USA and all of Mexico. Many of the ones I have known with Shaw Direct , over Bell, have Shaw because it will also work in the South, such as Florida. They could simply just have local channels on G2, with all the others going on F1R.

Those subscribers without access to G1 will lose H2, Discovery, Family, Teletoon, ABC Spark, Family Jr, Disney, Disney XD, Cartoon Network, W Network, Slice, Lifetime, Bravo, Comedy, Much, E!, CTV News Channel, CBC News, CP24, Action, TCM, M2, M3, Tele-Quebec, TFO, TVO, NTV. I am sure that I missed a few.

It looks like, by 2019, they will have run off all the snowbirds and will lose many of the subscribers they have living in the southern USA and Mexico. The snowbirds can go to IPTV, maybe with a VPN for a Canadian IP address, if needed.
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I think you should read some of the threads. Snowbirds are technically illegally receiving the signals. There is no long term plan to retain the signals in the South though it should be years before it all disappears. Of course they are going to lose those customers eventually as they are technically illegal.
xku was a special licence or whatever arrangement not meant to be spread over their other satellites.
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If it is technically illegal there should be no problem quoting US and/or Mexican, federal and/or state laws that stipulate this, right?
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