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post #31 of 226 (permalink) Old 2012-10-24, 03:45 PM
 
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i bit the bullet on a WD 2tb green drive with a vantec esata case. If the drive doesnt work, then into one of my computers it will go and I will get either a WD Black or Red, or even a segate.

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post #32 of 226 (permalink) Old 2012-10-24, 10:07 PM
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I talked to a computer store and they recommend a Vantec hard drive enclosure and a Seagate hard drive (they donít ďspin downĒ according to him).
I donít really know how this will work, how dose this sound to you guys?
Iím hopping to get my update on my 630 soon so I can take advantage of an extra 2 TBís
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I ordered the vantec case today with a WD drive. only reason I went with the WD was because it was on sale. If it doesnt work, into my tower it will go and I will get a different drive.

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post #34 of 226 (permalink) Old 2012-10-25, 09:42 AM
 
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Lost recordings

I am reading all of your posts. I am confused as to why everyone believe that we would lose our recordings on the external HD, should a power failure occur. Why is that? If a power failure occurs, we don't lose them on the DVR. I am just looking for clarification.

I have not received the new version yet, but the idea of having an external HD is exciting. My parents use one with their Bell PVR and it is fabulous. So much space!

GaryE, I am considering purchasing the same external HD that you and somebody else mentioned - WD My Book AV . Have you had a chance to try it out yet? Any issues? If you threw a circuit breaker, would it replicate a power failure so that you could test to see if you really do lose your recordings?
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I have not received the new software yet. I believe the issue with losing the programming was with software updates on the Rogers 8300 PVR system, not the eHDD itself. If you read the Rogers forum you would see that when Cisco took over the SA receivers they updated the software and that created chaos with external drives. I think things are better with their current PVR model but the 8300 was a disaster. It was a pain having to reset the external drive and she was also upset it kept losing her shows. So I just said I'm not hooking it back up to her 8300. I would buy it back from her.

UPDATED @ 1:54pm: Just downloaded the update and installed the "My Book AV". All seems fine!

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I don't think we can compare experiences with Rogers PVRs to the 630 since they are different receivers made by different companies.

quimbysjody, Bell PVRs use a different system for their EHDs. It's less likely to cause issues but I have seen lost recordings, even an entire disk's worth, with their EHD.

FWIW, I would go with either a WD My Book AV or a WD Red WD20EFRX in a Vantec NexStar CX NST-300SU-BK case. I haven't test these but the choice is based on experience with EHDs on other PVRs.

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post #37 of 226 (permalink) Old 2012-10-25, 01:35 PM Thread Starter
 
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Thanks Bob! The WD Red in a Vantec case provides the 2TB I was looking for (WD My Book AV is only 1TB) & all for under $200. So, unless anyone else thinks the above is a bad idea for some reason, that's what I'll go with.
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One thing to realize with a PVR is that it is designed primarily for time-shifting and not for archiving. Therefore a 1 GB HDD is often more than enough.

If you do save a lot of material on the PVR, be ready for disappointment at some future date when the programming is "lost" due to a malfunction or HDD failure. It's just the nature of the beast.

If there is anything that you wish to archive, you will need to offload it from the PVR - via a DVD recorder (Standard Def) or an HTPC/Hauppauge (HD) and also back that up.

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post #39 of 226 (permalink) Old 2012-10-25, 03:22 PM
 
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Thanks guys. I still haven't been targeted for the new version yet.

ETA: My machine literally just got targeted. Spooky.
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case and drive arrived in 1 day....nice.

set them up, went from 79% to 9%. So far so good.

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I just purchased the WD My Book AV DVR Expander with 1 TB of memory. I attached it to my 630 receiver with the eSATA cable and it was working within seconds. My hard drive went from 43% to 8%. It cost about $150 including taxes, but it is worth every penny. It is super quiet and now I can record HD programs without always worrying about disk space.
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Just bought and installed a Seagate Barracuda 2TB hard drive in a Vantic NexStar HX external hard drive case with a fan (NST-330SU3-BK). It went easy as pie. Plugged it into the 630 via the included eSATA cable started the power on the external hard drive, rebooted the 630 fallowed the prompts from the 630 and away she went.

The fan on the Vantec is very quiet, the hard drive makes more sound. You can also turn the fan off via an on/off switch (very nice). The blue light on the front is a bit much,runs full way top to bottom. I covered 90% with black electrical tape and you canít even see it.
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Installed Vantec Nexstar 3 ( $40 ) and Seagate 2TB Baracuda 7200 RPM 64MB ( $100 ). Easy install. Went from 86% to 10%.
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On my NexStar HX the blue light doesnít t stop flickering, the hard drive is accessing not just spinning 24/7?? Even when the PVR is off.
Is this the same with your guys setups?
I guess not that big of deal, just thought Iíd ask if itís the same with other setups.
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post #45 of 226 (permalink) Old 2012-10-27, 12:30 PM
 
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FAN ?

my Nextar 3 flashes all the time. The nexstar 3 does not appear to have a fan. Is a fan advisable? Should I get the HX?
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