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post #331 of 396 (permalink) Old 2014-09-18, 03:00 PM
 
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IF - big IF - broadcast stations are to shut down their transmitters, what is the simsub implication?

I doubt that ALL of the broadcast transmitters will ever shuttered, but some small city stations may go away depending on the recent CRTC hearings.
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post #332 of 396 (permalink) Old 2014-09-18, 04:16 PM
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One of the problems regardless of the provider is COMPUTERS!! All this simosubs are set up by computers that pre programmed to simosub channels at given time.
This is true for regular simsubs, however, any live event (like sports, Academy Awards, etc) is supposed to have a provider's employee do the switch-back, not a computer. When they do get this wrong, complain to the provider and the CRTC.

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post #333 of 396 (permalink) Old 2014-09-19, 10:02 AM
 
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Obed - please report this simsub error to CRTC.

As Obed states, this is a clear-cut simsub error on the part of Shaw Direct. City TV would have sent out an automatic notification for the substitution to all providers for all ABC stations, and Shaw didn't review it and override it which they should have done in this case where ABC Detroit deviated from network programming. Presumably someone at Shaw Direct noticed (either on their own or from a customer complaint call that actually went through the proper escalation channels), and eventually stopped the simsub.

The CRTC does in fact have a complaint mechanism for this, and, if the complaint is properly made, it will be recorded. Complaints should be clear, concise and free of rants.
EG. Time of day, provider, US network (channel number), program, show that was being simsubbed over it, if/when the improper simsub ended.

Here is some interesting reading of a discussion at the CRTC about this very topic, just last week:
http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/transcripts/2014/tb0910.html
Paragraphs 4337-4354.
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post #334 of 396 (permalink) Old 2014-09-19, 02:52 PM
 
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Interesting.

So Kevin Crull, President of Bell Media, states that he will personally help ensure that simsub mistakes do not continue to happen. Is Mr. Crull himself going to sit in the control room of Shaw Direct (or Rogers, Bell), including on weekends for live sports, making certain that no mistakes happen during overruns? Are you kidding me. And the CRTC just kind of takes his word for it too! These mistakes have been happening for a very long time, and are going to continue to happen. Just look at the Super Bowl with a key played missed last year.
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That Super Bowl play was not a simulcast error, it was a referee error on the field. They let the clock go to the 2 minute warning, but it should have been stopped with 2:02 left. They break was called BY THE CONTROL ROOM and every network carrying the feed (CTV has a truck feed and was getting the same cues and a clean feed) so everyone missed the play.

Everyone. Missed. The. Play.
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Living in rural Newfoundland and getting CITY TV Simsub on ABC East CH 59 I am hundreds of miles from the nearest tv station and theres not even a tv transmitter in my community.

There isn't even a City tv station in Newfoundland.

Is there a link someplace where I can see how sim subbing is suppose to work?
I know its different from Bell tv.

I had no sim subs til tonight.
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Please see post 318 of this thread and the link there, as well as subsequent posts elaborating on the topic.

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/show...06#post2270706

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post #338 of 396 (permalink) Old 2014-10-20, 12:20 AM
 
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ok thank you
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post #339 of 396 (permalink) Old 2014-11-27, 10:11 AM
 
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Bad simsub situation this morning. Tried to watch the America's Thanksgiving Parade from Detroit on NBC and Shaw simsubbed a Rachael episode over it from Global Halifax.
Do the folks at Shaw not realize that most programming in the US is preempted today because of American Thanksgiving.

This is one (of many) reasons why I hate simsubbing.
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No simsub for me for yesterday's Supperbowl on NBC west coast feed....nice surprise!

Anyone else?
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At least one local break was simsubbed as often occurs when watching NBC Detroit. But the game was pure NBC.
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Pure NBC on both east and west here, with the 9 million dollar plus commercials. If it had have been on Global we would have had simsub, but no simsubs from CTV here in Annapolis County for any program.
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Yes we too had pure NBC feed. They must be obeying the CRTC ruling 2 year ahead of time.
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In my experience it has not been sim subbed previously on Shaw Direct.
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Bad simsub situation this morning. Tried to watch the America's Thanksgiving Parade from Detroit on NBC and Shaw simsubbed a Rachael episode over it from Global Halifax.
Do the folks at Shaw not realize that most programming in the US is preempted today because of American Thanksgiving.

This is one (of many) reasons why I hate simsubbing.
Just a note for the executives at Shaw Direct..US Thanksgiving is this Thursday. :-)
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