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post #31 of 65 (permalink) Old 2009-04-04, 09:12 PM
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Its been discussed here before that Shaw Broadcasting (and as a result Star Choice) will stop carrying all Buffalo stations, as well as Fox Detroit, at the end of April. I guess this is the confirmation of that.
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post #32 of 65 (permalink) Old 2009-04-04, 09:42 PM
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I have mailed Jim a few times now. The good news is they always respond, the bad news is that there is very little chance you can have an impact on anything they decide to do. There would have to be a huge reponse by the customers for them to reverse their decison.
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post #33 of 65 (permalink) Old 2009-04-04, 11:30 PM
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Star Choice has dropped TFO, paid by our taxes.

Good luck trying to keep WNED.

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post #34 of 65 (permalink) Old 2009-04-05, 12:47 AM
 
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If Shaw Broadcasting isn't beaming the feed anymore, it can't be on Star Choice because they provide feeds to Star Choice, and many other providers.
Been to the Cancom uplink centre, in Mississauga, and they showed me all of the television channels that they uplink. Just because Shaw removes the channels, it doesn't neccessarily mean Starchoice would. They service many different regional cable companies. Too bad that they wouldn't remove both Buffalo and Detroit, and replace it with New York City or another eastern timezone set of locals. It would be something new for everyone concerned. Maybe the new 605 and 630 will have OTA tuners in them. We can always hope. With the Canadian locals getting their signal paid for, might get them put in a discretionary tier and allow their subs to receive their locals, without paying for them.
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post #35 of 65 (permalink) Old 2009-04-05, 11:27 AM
 
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If they've chosen to keep only Detroit for the East feeds why do they keep getting Fox from Rochester? Why not put Fox Detroit on 363? Sourcing affiliates from different cities create duplication of syndication programming, while some shows will fall through the cracks.

What about the HD channels? I think they've switched them around quite a bit. Which U.S. affiliates are now being carried?
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post #36 of 65 (permalink) Old 2009-04-05, 11:32 AM
 
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HD East:
Detroit: CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS
Rochester: FOX

HD West:
All from Seattle
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So I wonder how Rogers Ottawa is still getting Fox Detroit. I thought they were using the Detroit feeds because that's all that was available from CanCom.

Has Starchoice said what its reasoning was for not sourcing the Fox affiliate from the same city as the other affiliates? Are they just playing safe to avoid disruption of service when WJBK moves from channel 58 to channel 7 on June 13th?
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post #38 of 65 (permalink) Old 2009-04-05, 12:01 PM
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Rogers uses Buffalo for the GTA and Detroit outside the GTA for HD. This makes simsubbing easy because they only need to sub the GTA at this point. Rogers was initially using Detroit for all HD, but changed that once Buffalo stations had HD and because of surveys that supposedly indicated Toronto people preferred to have the Buffalo stations (although no-one asked me. )

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So I wonder how Rogers Ottawa is still getting Fox Detroit. I thought they were using the Detroit feeds because that's all that was available from CanCom.
I'm guessing that Rogers uses their own fiber network and headend for Detroit locals.
When they first replaced Rochester with Detroit up here in Ottawa, the reception quality was definitely fringe OTA.
I don't know exactly where their headend is -- is it as far away as London, or somewhere closer to Detroit.
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Rogers has several "head ends". There may be several in large cities and probably one per small city/town. This is not the same as satellite where there is one "uplink".

Rogers get Detroit via Fibre. They receive Buffalo signals OTA via an Antenna in Erie. I think we're getting a bit off-topic for this thread.

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post #41 of 65 (permalink) Old 2009-04-08, 05:51 PM
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NYC isn't relavent to southern Ontario, which I beleive is the largest concentration of English TV viewers in Eastern Canada.

And yes, if Shaw Broacast Services (nee Cancom) drops a channel, it will no longer be on Starchoice by extension.

TFO, AFAIK, is still there on SBS, just not available to SC viewers.

IMHO, there is a slim chance they will include ATSC tuners in the 605/635.
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post #42 of 65 (permalink) Old 2009-04-08, 07:47 PM
 
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I just got a reply from Ask Jim which says they will continue PBS Buffalo (WNED) because of the many letters from fans.
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post #43 of 65 (permalink) Old 2009-04-09, 09:48 AM
 
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if this is true, can we start a campaign to keep WJBK (Fox Detroit)? Seriously, their 11 pm newscast is awesome
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post #44 of 65 (permalink) Old 2009-04-14, 11:24 AM
 
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They gone

as of this morning, Fox Detroit, & CBS, ABC, and NBC Buffalo are gone.
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