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post #1 of 38 (permalink) Old 2005-10-11, 05:02 PM Thread Starter
 
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Email sent to CTV/CRTC concerning that pathetic CTV logo with simsubs on BEV

Well CTV is now simsubbing again and a new season of CRTC emails has begun. I have just sent one off to the CRTC/CTV concerning that pathetic CTV logo bug they put over U.S. network logo's.

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Good afternoon:

I am writing to complain about the simsub practises of CTV for the TV program CSI. The U.S. network was CBS and was shown at 7pm on Oct 8/05 on Bell Expressvu on channel 817 which is the CBS east HD channel. Now I realize that as a consumer paying for these channels that the money I pay means nothing to the CRTC or the broadcast industry in Canada (or the fact that Toronto commercials mean nothing to western viewers), but surely to god the CRTC/CTV can do something to get rid of that irritating and annoying CTV logo.

Simsubbing is supposed to be so the profits stay huge for the canadian broadcast system in the name of canadian culture (and we all know how much culture canadian broadcasters put back into canadian production), but this does not mean that while legally stealing the channel I am watching I have to be subjected to that pathetic, annoying logo. Canadian broadcasters are already making considerable money from the advertising, this is not reason to subject viewers to the CTV logo.

I would dearly like to have the CRTC once do something for the canadian consumer instead of allowing canadian broadcasters to do what they wish, when they wish with no regard to what the consumer is getting. I would also like the CRTC to respond to this matter instead of ignoring me as they did concerning my last email with respect to Bell ExpressVu/Movie Central.

Annoyed Canadian,

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post #2 of 38 (permalink) Old 2005-10-11, 05:28 PM
 
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I agree with you. What's even more annoying is Global. You get their logo in the top right hand corner, and the network in the bottom right. I find the top right really distracting.

What I don't understand is this need to brand their stinking logos on any channels (US networks as well). Channels like YTV (I think Teletoon too), have a logo that flies in after a commercial, does it's thing, and then leaves. I'm ok with that. If they want to advertise their network, fine. But why are they trying to burn their logo into my TV???????
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Hey just wait Wires:

Soon we will have the U.S. station logo on the bottom right, the Canadian broadcasters logo on the top right, the Canadian flag on the top left, your provincial flad on the bottom left and scrolling along the bottom "Brought to you by the CRTC, rubber stamper of the canadian broadcast system because we can and will control what you watch in your FREE country"!

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I have only noticed a clear clean CTVHD logo on the simsubs I've seen so far. Much better then last year.
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Take a look at a CBS simsub and I know you will see the black crap!

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Our boradcasting system is a joke.Lets all go grey!!!
I'd rather see the global logo in the top corner than the ch grey/black crap thing covering 2/3 of the NBC logo.
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Last night's CSI Miami (10 pm EST) had a clear CTV logo in the lower right and no CBS logo at all.
This of course did not stop me from changing to my HD CBS OTA station in Buffalo (as someone who despises Simsubs - I feel very lucky to live so close to a good sized U.S. city)
p.s. loved your letter to the CRTC Altaman - well said

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The translucent logo is used when it's not a simsub - ie the CTV programme is on at a different time than the US network. A real simsub will have the black logo. There is a thread on that subject.

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I have seen the ugly black CTV bug in the past (mostly last year) and I was suprised to see a clear logo last night but 10pm est IS CSI Miami's time slot on CBS and CTV took over the feed on Bell's CBS HD channel.
I switched between Bell's CBS HD channel and my OTA CBS HD station and other than being several seconds out of sync it was the same show same, time slot.

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Perhaps I'm wrong. Perhaps they are now able to tie in and get a "logoless" feed for some programmes. I'll see if I can find that thread. Here it is...

http://digitalhomecanada.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=30868

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Global puts theirs on the top right with the US logo in the bottom right.

Am I getting new Sony?
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Global puts theirs on the top right with the US logo in the bottom right.
I noticed that again last night. I thank Global or turning up the contast on their logo too. Nice and bright and white. If I watch enough Global shows, I should be able to get a perpetual global moon on the corner of my screen.
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you guys raise some valid points...those static logos could potentially cause burn in on some of plasma tv's out there.

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Well looks like I got Ms. Grossi's attention with my email complaint concerning the CTV HD logo...here is the msg I got back from her today:

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Dear Mr. Altaman:

Thanks for contacting the CRTC with your concerns.

It's the broadcasters themselves - not the CRTC - who are responsible for the programming they provide. This is spelled out in the Broadcasting Act. Our job is to make sure broadcasters have acted responsibly - and to hold them accountable for their programming when it's called for.

In order to follow this matter, I am asking CTV by copy of this message, to respond directly to you within three weeks and to send us a copy of its reply for review by Commission staff. I am also asking that it hold a tape of the broadcast in question until your case is resolved. You will hear from us again if any regulatory action is required
Note they are asking them to hold a copy of the broadcast in question! I think that with respect to these broadcaster bugs, we can get the CRTC to do something. I suggest others who find these bugs annoying, distracting and possibly causing burnin on your sets to contact the CRTC.

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I was watching CSI last night, and that pretty logo kept showing up.

Oddly enough, it's displayed through the first couple of minutes of the opening show (before the intro rolls), and then after commercial break, there is 15 or so seconds of show before it pops up again.

Not sure why they need it (since they display CTV ads throughout the commercials). But why don't they display it in the intro before the show starts, and then the first 15-30 seconds after commercials (getting rid of it the rest of the time during the show). And if they really need to, pop it in the last 15-30 seconds before commercial breaks (would be a nice indicator that commercials are coming). I really doubt I'd forget what channel I'm watching 1/2 way through the show!

Hopefully CTV gets back to you about it.
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